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Author Topic: ER4S revisted (again for 4th time) versus UERM, ZA CT DX200, Klipsch R6R  (Read 7479 times)

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What was your problem with the tri-flanges? I've tried just about all of them (including customs) and tri-flanges are the best provided you can get used to the deep insertion. I wouldn't recommend customs at all, as they'll kill the bass and make the treble peakier.

Same as Anax... it irritates my ear canal. much more than my CIEM ( silicon IEM with deep insertion too)

The friend who sold me those ER4 use only stock gray foam tips and he's a fan of his ER4 ( He had two pairs and sold me one and he prefers his ER4 to many TOTL iems like Shure SE846 for example) .  For customs tips, Piotr told exactly the contrary (  Bass increase)  and If I refer to my Custom iems (Music two) , it provides really deep insert.

I think I'll try custom tips then make my own opinion and give you the results of my experience.


EDIT :  Compared  stock complys and stock Tri-flanges. It seems Complys eat the microdynamics and some treble but helps to have more bass.  It seems I struggle to have a good seal with triflanges.

EDIT 2 : fuck !  I found a good fit with the triflanges  :)p13 . bass are alive !

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Man. I just got these again. Its been 3 years since I had them last, when I found them a pinnacle of clarity, but otherwise anemic. I don't know what has changed, but the bass is alive.

I am pretty aggressive about deep insertion with universal IEMs, I have used similar sources/amps, and I previously used the original triple flange shure olives as tips. Based on that, I have narrowed it to the following: using the smaller "baby blue" triple flanges this time AND/OR hearing loss / changes.

I am scared to believe my hearing could have changed that much... it would mean (I think) I have sufficient higher frequency loss that I can turn up the volume without pain, and thus hear moar bass. I am only 32, and (live shows aside) am pretty careful about listening levels. Is this possible??
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I think a lot of people are used to bass boosted IEMs. And it makes sense given the missing 6dB effect and all that. But I can't listen to those things.....it's just not a natural way to reproduce that part of the spectrum. Given correct insertion, I find IEMs like the ER4S, Rockit R50 (DBA02?), and certain UE's (UERM & UE4) to have the correct amount of bass with relation to mids.
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An Ety rep told me that the triflanges used to irritate his ears till he cut 2 mm off the base. He gave me some extras to try that with, but I haven't gotten to it yet.
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Mine are sold. Realmassy from head-fi owns them now.  My Custom Art Music two are both more enjoyable on the go and more resolving. not mention to comfort ( Custom vs Triflange  :)p8 )  The lack of resolution and soundstage layering killed those ER4 for me   :(

Nothing to complain about bass though. At least with the best seal I achieved to get. 

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The lack of resolution and soundstage layering killed those ER4 for me   :(

This is where a single BA driver is ultimately gimped. The FAD FIBA-SS is probably the best it gets for a single BA, but ultimately having just one extra driver opens things up and makes sound so much more effortless. The trick is not going too crazy with additional drivers to the point your crossover is a mess and even perhaps veiling the sound.
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Piotr Granicki from Custom Art Seems to do a Good Job. My Music two are really affordable (350$ ?) but they never cease to impress me. Not enough clarity, not enough extension, maybe not enough transparent but they're damn resolving  p:8 

Maybe I'll give a try to his Harmony 8 pro but haven't enough use of IEMs. So I much prefer send my money in my home rig I spend 20/25hours per week with.

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Custom Art Music two

Well, they do have dual armatures.
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Well, they do have dual armatures.


Yep. two sonions.

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