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Re: Nonsensical audio terms
« Reply #130 on: January 20, 2013, 07:44:19 PM »
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Re: Nonsensical audio terms
« Reply #131 on: January 20, 2013, 08:46:57 PM »
Quote from: Solderdude on January 20, 2013, 07:35:48 PM

Money no object = SR009 BUT since money is no concern get yourself 2 or 3 other headphones and amps as well such as HE-90 e.t.c.  ;D



Money no object <> SR009. At least for me.
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Re: Nonsensical audio terms
« Reply #132 on: January 20, 2013, 09:24:39 PM »
If money is no object, then my own house in the middle of nowhere and the very best speaker system with the freedom to be played all day.

Technicality is a word that's in the verge of being nonsensical to me, but only because it has so many differing definitions on head-fi.  One man's technical superior headphone is another man's thin and sibilant headphone.  People also use it moreso for subjective arguments rather than objective arguments.
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Re: Nonsensical audio terms
« Reply #133 on: January 20, 2013, 09:59:07 PM »
Oh yes, I'd forgotten that one - 'Technically speaking, it's a superior headphone'. Used quite a bit to suggest a superior knowledge on HF!!

That argument was used against me concerning the DT880 way back when it came out. There was a fanboy on there who got really offended because I dared to suggest that I found it a bit toppy.

He told me that it was a 'technically superior' headphone and got really irate. It turns out that he was using two CMoy's linked together to drive it.  p:0
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Re: Nonsensical audio terms
« Reply #134 on: January 20, 2013, 10:48:47 PM »
Quote from: purrin on January 20, 2013, 08:46:57 PM
Money no object <> SR009. At least for me.

The troubling part for me is... I believe you ...
Having listened for many years to some really good electrostatic speakers, these too do not compare to dynamic speakers.
I find the modded T50RP (+ added 10kHz + part) too makes the 'headphone' disappear in much the same way as the electrostatic speakers (with a massive active subwoofer) were not present listening to music while I can always hear the drivers of 'normal' speakers.
To form a sort of reference... for my own sake... never having heard those HP's.
How does the SR009 'compare' to the Paradox or is that comparison nonsensical ?
Just curious... (and afraid) as I think the SR009 might also 'disappear' from the chain listening only to performance of music instead of gear reproducing it.

Did hear the HD800 on a couple of occasions and some cheaper Stax's, T1, D7000, HE500, LCD2 though.
Nice headphones but all had 'something' that could not satisfy me or became 'obvious'  as a limitation when switching headphones around.
I should stop doing direct comparisons though ... but I can't ... its like an addiction... dammit

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Re: Nonsensical audio terms
« Reply #135 on: January 21, 2013, 01:51:33 AM »
Don't worry, we don't do FOTMs here. Just listen to some music before you torture that suffering wallet...
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Re: Nonsensical audio terms
« Reply #136 on: January 21, 2013, 03:47:43 AM »
Personally I'd be hesitant about people impressions of the HD800 and 009.  They both change more with upstream gear than any other phones I've ever heard.  I've heard a few here and there.  Modded Jade can too somewhat.
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Re: Nonsensical audio terms
« Reply #137 on: January 21, 2013, 02:32:40 PM »
Spot on, Anax. The HD800 and SR-009 are some of the most chameleon-like headphones around. With the wrong gear they end up sounding flat, lifeless, and irritatingly strident to my ears. On the right system however they're pretty much unparalleled in refinement by anything else on the headphone market today.

While not as extreme, I find the HE90 is somewhat similar in this regard: on some amps it sounds too romantic and uneven for my liking. With the right amp however, I still feel it comes out on top. An Orpheus rig with the proper synergy is still one of my potential "end game" rigs.

For me the stat ranking sort of looks like:

1st - Sennheiser HE90 (on the right amp)
2nd - Stax SR-Omega
3rd - Stax SR-009 (on the right amp)
4th - Jecklin Float QUAD Atelier
5th - HeAUDIO Jade / EH-1.2B / EH-1.3 (non-modded)
6th - Stax SR-007mk1
7th - Stax SR-007mk2
8th - Koss ESP950
9th - SR-009 on the wrong amp

I omit dynamics for the sake of brevity.

It's variable tho. When my biological clock's alarm goes off, SR-007mk1 would be much higher up there, probably ahead of everything but the HE90. I'm sure the modded version of the Jade would be higher up too.
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Re: Nonsensical audio terms
« Reply #138 on: January 21, 2013, 04:51:31 PM »
Wow, this is becoming quite a thread - from nonsensical terms to Name and Shame!!!

What is really nice is the fact that these are all technically at the top of the pile but ultimately, we all seek slight variations.

I must admit, it is fascinating seeing what guys see as THE headphone to have.

Maybe another one for the best at each price level? This is a seriously interesting topic actually and I am kind of riveted to looking at the recommendations. I also love the honesty!!!  :)p7
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Re: Nonsensical audio terms
« Reply #139 on: January 21, 2013, 05:40:19 PM »
LOL could we get a definition of plankton for the unitiated limeys amongst us  :)p14

I have a rough idea of what you are referring to, but don't want to put my foot in my mouth assume wrong.
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