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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #680 on: October 24, 2014, 11:01:52 PM »

That's what I was thinking too. Especially since we re-installed them (the same version tho) before. I just wanted to do it not to feel stupid when I find that they work once I try it in the future haha. Even looked some soundcard today. Well, at least 70 euros saved for now, tho I'm thinking if I get impressed and get good mixes with Superlux HD668B to buy a decent amp, and use JVC stereo (I forgot that I have it at my parents flat) as check out speakers. JBL LSR 305 are still my target tho, couldn't hear better words about them from a lot of professionals.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #681 on: October 25, 2014, 06:55:09 PM »

JBL LSR 305 are still my target tho, couldn't hear better words about them from a lot of professionals.

That's the one!

It's a bad situation for stuff like that here in India: hard to get, and the price is no longer budget-brilliant-bargain when it is available. If I was in USA, I'd probably have a pair of the 305s or 308s. IIRC, the budget price was like, just buy it --- don't like the sound? Put them on the floor and sit on them!

With the Equators, I can get them here, and I don't think the price premium is huge, but if you are in USA, you can buy them and just send them back if you don't like them.

Hmmm... Maybe you're not in USA!
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #682 on: October 26, 2014, 01:55:32 AM »

I'm in Serbia, so I'm not in much better position haha. I can get them for around 300 euros here (pair), but problem with our countries aren't just prices, it's earnings. Plus as you mentioened, buying options. Here I can't return equipment like that. On the other side, that's not pretty big budget for studio monitors, considering some people who do pretty good mixes on KRK's, JBL LSR being better would be pretty much investment for many, many years. Look at it like that, it's not new Iphone or something, you'll use it for quite amount of time, and it will bring you a lot of good stuff (most important, satisfaction). So I find it worth saving money for. :)

P.S. Friend of mine is a very good sound engineer, competed in Rome, New York etc. He worked on many expensive studio monitors, owns a pair of Genelecs. He was blown away with LSR series (said they sound like 1000$ monitors, and beat KRK easily. He owned KRK as starting monitors), he will buy them as another pair next to already mentioned Genelecs. So when he says it's good investment, I really trust him.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #683 on: October 26, 2014, 02:58:13 PM »

Serbia... so you don't have the luxury of being a USA buyer either!

Gearslutz has a lot of mixed feelings about Genelec. I suppose they were the first real studio-grade monitor I ever heard, and I was bowled over. Since then, although I haven't had the opportunity to do much wider listening, my interest has widened to such stuff as Adam, Equator, JBL, and many of the others, especially the brands mentioned in the Gearslutz High End Monitor test (although some of that extends not to thousands of $$$ but to tens of thousands of $$$).

internet-drooling, I'd love to put a pair of Geithain RL906 on my desk. So... I blow my savings on a pair of desktop speakers, get them passed through customs without too much pain, and delivered, undamaged, to my door. My hunch is that they would way outdo Genelec --- but what do I do if and when they go wrong?   There's a lot more electronics in active speakers. If I ever do get to spend at that level, at least Genelec are here, in my country; I've met the guys, they are good guys; not the kind of guys who would, for instance, refuse to service something because it had been bought cheaper abroad.

Sorry, this is all about my problems, not yours! I can't get the JBLs here at reasonable price: Equator D5 is earmarked as my affordable upgrade, and it is one that I have actually heard.

But hey, I guess I'm more interested in spending on a new DAC and headphone stuff right now...
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #684 on: October 26, 2014, 03:41:49 PM »

Glad that your problem is resolved Darsus, drivers, would have never thought about them. Was pretty sure the soundcard was fked by DC or something. The D5 is nice(heard) but not sure about the MSRP, they were a killer when they were released, used to be much cheaper.

I desire the Genelecs the most due to my difficult acoustic environment and I'm gonna be travelling soon and want to take them along with me. Or maybe when I get around with my full range bookshelf speakers I could call it a day after that.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #685 on: October 26, 2014, 05:50:39 PM »

@Thad E Ginathom

Well, I totally understand. If anything, I can service pretty much every brand here in Serbia.

Equator D5 are awesome monitors (reading from reviews). I wouldn't decide easily if I had to chose between them and JBL LSR 305. Btw, my father used to be a hi-fi collector (or whatever it's called), back in the day when financials are better. He used to have/exchange/sell expensive electrostatic speakers of brands higher than JBL, but always, always considered JBL as very good brand. I don't know where that "Junk But Loud" stigma came from?! Really hate when someone writes off JBL's without even hearing them.

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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #686 on: October 26, 2014, 06:20:22 PM »

I don't know where that "Junk But Loud" stigma came from?! Really hate when someone writes off JBL's without even hearing them.

It came after Harmon bought JBL and did what they usually do to companies they buy.  Craig Uthus of Eddie Current used to work for them before and after so we have first hand info behind the scenes of what happened that coincides with a lot of people's impressions after the fact.

I had heard some of their latest loudspeakers at The Show a year ago and they sounded awful.  I had never heard of that axiom but that's what they sounded like.  The rep said, "isn't that bass awesome!"  I was thinking no it's shit, the whole thing is shit.  People who know JBL, know their vintage stuff is where the magic was.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #687 on: October 26, 2014, 07:44:48 PM »

That prety much explains my father's opionion about them. It was so odd to me to hear such a good words from somone who worked with speakers of bigger brands in past then JBL, and nowadays opinion. Thanks!
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #688 on: October 26, 2014, 09:38:28 PM »

The rep said, "isn't that bass awesome!"  I was thinking no it's shit, the whole thing is shit.

It sounds like a guy selling bass-thumping speakers to bass-head thumpers. Which is fine ...for bass-head thumpers. To many of us it would probably mean completely unbalanced and horrible speakers.

JBL have a professional division, and the active monitors that Darsus and I have been talking about come from that division. I don't know how different it is....
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #689 on: October 26, 2014, 09:45:29 PM »

I don't know where that "Junk But Loud" stigma came from?! Really hate when someone writes off JBL's without even hearing them.

It came after Harmon bought JBL and did what they usually do to companies they buy.  Craig Uthus of Eddie Current used to work for them before and after so we have first hand info behind the scenes of what happened that coincides with a lot of people's impressions after the fact.

I had heard some of their latest loudspeakers at The Show a year ago and they sounded awful.  I had never heard of that axiom but that's what they sounded like.  The rep said, "isn't that bass awesome!"  I was thinking no it's shit, the whole thing is shit.  People who know JBL, know their vintage stuff is where the magic was.


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