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Eric_C

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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #500 on: August 18, 2014, 01:26:15 PM »

HD 600 > DT-880, and they're actually more similar than not. If you go with option 2 just sell the Beyer.
But my gut tells me you should get a Gungnir. I'm real happy with my Bifrost, but for realz if I could swing the cash I would've just gone Gungnir (even though I never bother with balanced).
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #501 on: August 18, 2014, 01:32:07 PM »

You absolutely don't need to use it balanced to get the benefits of Gungnir over Bifrost.

...yes I know I'm gushing about gungnir too much... >.>
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #502 on: August 18, 2014, 01:46:24 PM »

I've always liked the hd600 much more than the dt880s but since you have the he-560, I don't see much of a reason for getting the hd600 unless you just want another pair of headphones with a different sound. As for the hd800, it's a big investment and there's a good chance that you might not like them.

Like Soup said, you don't need to go balanced in order to get the benefits of the Gungnir. I've never even used the balanced on my gungnir output. It seems like the odac is the weakest in your chain right now so the gungnir would be a sweet upgrade. If you're patient, just wait til someone sells one on head-fi for cheap or buy b-stock from schiit to save a little bit of money. I tried my friend's he-560 with my gungnir and virtue one.3 and we were both really impressed by how it sounded through my system. Way better than on his oppo ha-1. I said this in the shoutbox, but I'll say it again here: "If hard hitting bass, sweet vocals, lively but smooth treble, and high dynamics is what you're looking for, then the gungnir is the way to go."
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #503 on: August 18, 2014, 02:11:26 PM »

I appreciate the quick replies, in kind:
I don't see much of a reason for getting the hd600 unless you just want another pair of headphones with a different sound

Trying something different is kind of the point, I know they are more similar than different, but I also know they were the focus of wild debate frenzied fan-boy warfare for years, and I was not in a position to compare during that time. As stated, the hd600 is part and parcel with acquisition of Valahalla, which I would keep no matter which headphone survives. Part of this urge is about expanding headphone literacy. Part of this urge is fueled by the recent iteration of "MEGA price drop on HD600 and HD650!!!1"

if I could swing the cash I would've just gone Gungnir (even though I never bother with balanced).
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You absolutely don't need to use it balanced to get the benefits of Gungnir over Bifrost.
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Like Soup said, you don't need to go balanced in order to get the benefits of the Gungnir.
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buy b-stock from schiit to save a little bit of money.

I figured this would be consensus answer, but you know the way these urges work: all at once. I lurked quite a bit re: gungnir, and when I think of buying an uber bifrost, vs b-stock gungnir (there are currently a few) the price difference is not so great as to forego the latter. The appeal of balanced is, for me, more novelty than necessity, but I like being in a position to at least try it rather than getting the bifrost and in a year saying, "fu...uck," when my curiosity reawakens.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #504 on: August 18, 2014, 02:14:01 PM »

I don't consider the jump from Uber Bifrost to Gungnir to be a small one. Having them both side by side right now makes it easy for me to hear the obvious differences between the two. Unless of course the highly dynamic nature of the Gungnir turns you off(which it seems to for many) I would say it's a no brainer.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #505 on: August 18, 2014, 03:48:18 PM »

aufmerksam, you can always get the gungnir... and then buy a used hd580!   :)p2

I think that fits your budget!
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #506 on: August 18, 2014, 04:36:03 PM »

For under $400, is there a better desktop amp for the HE-560 than the Vali?  If so, I'd appreciate recommendations.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #507 on: August 18, 2014, 04:47:26 PM »

For under $400, is there a better desktop amp for the HE-560 than the Vali?  If so, I'd appreciate recommendations.

Do you want tubes or SS? For SS I think the Asgard2 is a hell of a value proposition at $250. I have not compared to Vali, but I have found it very capable for all of the ortho's I have tried (HE-560, HE-500, LCD-3).
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #508 on: August 18, 2014, 05:03:58 PM »

For under $400, is there a better desktop amp for the HE-560 than the Vali?  If so, I'd appreciate recommendations.

Do you want tubes or SS? For SS I think the Asgard2 is a hell of a value proposition at $250. I have not compared to Vali, but I have found it very capable for all of the ortho's I have tried (HE-560, HE-500, LCD-3).

I'm not partial to SS or tube/hybrid (I like both).. sorry, should've clarified.. anything out side of the Asgard 2/Schiit?  If people have tried many amps please list) and found the Vali (or A2) to be the best.. that's a valuable opinion to me, as well.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #509 on: August 18, 2014, 05:17:16 PM »

Maybe a used Virtue ONE? The older versions would have certainly cost less than $400.
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