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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #180 on: April 30, 2013, 08:40:08 AM »

Hello iRo. Based on your listed preferences (warmer, less treble emphasis, soundstage), I'd suggest looking into:



Sony MDR-7550 (aka EX800ST): Fairly well balanced but very polite. It's basically Sony's idea of an in-ear studio monitor. Treble is less aggressive compared to the other EX series models. Price is around $200-300.

Heir 5.0: This one will be shaped more like a custom, but it's still universally fitting so you don't need to bother with ear impressions. It has a warmer sound similar to the 8.A. Price will be around $700 IIRC.

Radius HP-TWF21: More exotic / harder to find, but it has a rather fun presentation that is very spacious and open. It's on the slightly bassier and less trebly side of the spectrum. Price will be around $200.

HiFiMan RE-400: This is $99, but it's a serious contender and hits way above its price range IMHO. The balance is slightly bottom-shifted, but over it'll a pretty linear sounding earphone. Good for small ears.

TDK BA200: Reminds me of the Westone universals somewhat (like the W4), but personally I prefer this to them. Price around $180.

Ultimate Ears UE900: Also worth a close look. $400.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #181 on: April 30, 2013, 06:45:30 PM »

Also consider the Sennheiser IE 8. It has prodigious bass and a surprisingly "open"/"spacious" sound for an IEM. The low end was a bit much for me, but it definitely made for a warmer sound.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #182 on: May 01, 2013, 06:15:58 PM »

Similar question, but I'm looking for CIEMs for my daily commute and when I'm studying away from my apartment because of the extra isolation.  I'm looking for one with a warmer sound, so I was considering the AS-1, but I'm open to other brands.  Any recommendations around $500?

Edit:  Forgot to mention, I plan to run it out of the Fiio X3 when it comes out.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #183 on: May 01, 2013, 07:08:15 PM »

You should be able to get into a UE4 for around $500.  Solid choice in a CIEM.

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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #184 on: May 01, 2013, 07:19:09 PM »

If isolation is key, I'd check out some of the silicone CIEM makers.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #185 on: May 03, 2013, 12:20:26 AM »

Has anyone heard the Tzar 90 and 350? I'm curious about the 350 specifically because it's supposed to be neutral and all plus the impedance allows for a bigger headroom on my DAP since I listen at very low volumes.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #186 on: May 03, 2013, 02:49:16 PM »

Has anyone heard the Tzar 90 and 350? I'm curious about the 350 specifically because it's supposed to be neutral and all plus the impedance allows for a bigger headroom on my DAP since I listen at very low volumes.

The Tzar 350 is not neutral by a long shot.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #187 on: May 14, 2013, 03:32:04 AM »

Any love for Tralucent 1+2 IEM (bundled with T1 amp) over FitEat TG334 if my requirements were to find a drastic improvement for Vsonic GR07? Smooth treble, wide and deep staging, sweet mids, and also some bass?

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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #188 on: May 14, 2013, 08:30:58 PM »

Any love for Tralucent 1+2 IEM (bundled with T1 amp) over FitEat TG334 if my requirements were to find a drastic improvement for Vsonic GR07? Smooth treble, wide and deep staging, sweet mids, and also some bass?

Thanks.

The 1Plus2 has a much larger sense of scale, seating you back in the audience several rows away. Has more lower bass, but overall a tighter and snappier response down below. Treble is brighter and a little harsher. Very detailed. Overall a definite hi-fi signature, not even close to neutral, imposes itself on everything (makes everything sound grandiose). Execution though is top notch, one of the best renditions of this type of approach I've encountered so far.

The TO GO! 334 is like the total opposite. Mids are the highlight of the signature. Bass is kind of slow but fairly well balanced to my ears. Treble is less emphasized but more refined, smoother. The presentation isn't trying to overtly impress or sparkle or inflate the surroundings, it instead does a fairly good job getting out of the way. A polite sound, but still plenty detailed and does a better job cooperating with a wider variety of material (more versatile than the 1Plus2 IMHO). Presentation is more up close and intimate, not as big and wide open like the 1Plus2.
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Re: The All Purpose Advice Thread
« Reply #189 on: May 15, 2013, 03:04:49 AM »

Has anyone heard the Tzar 90 and 350? I'm curious about the 350 specifically because it's supposed to be neutral and all plus the impedance allows for a bigger headroom on my DAP since I listen at very low volumes.

The Tzar 350 is not neutral by a long shot.

I have had the Tzar 350 for about 4 months.  I generally agree with MF that they are not neutral.  Please take my opinion with a grain of salt, unlike MF and many of the other fine members around here, I am fairly new to the hobby and am still learning.  That being said I have really enjoyed my experience with the 350. 

I would say that the 350 are on the brigher side of neutral.  The treble does have a tendency to get harsh, and I am not overly sensitive to treble issues.  I notice this especially with cymbals.  They sound quite tinny/harsh and lack the appropriate timber and resonance to be realistic (neutral) with cymbals.  Granted, this is probably one of the most difficult instruments to accurately portray, but if you listen to a lot of rock or older jazz records then they will likely become fatiguing.  On higher quality recordings I don't notice the sibilance as much and they are the nicest IEMs that I have heard for classical music.  My only real reference for these is the HD800 (which I own) and a number of other headphones which I tested out. 

Besides the cymbal and overly bright treble I like them a lot.  They have a solid natural sounding bass and fairly neutral mids (they may sound a little recessed due to the treble).  I won't get into extension because I don't feel I have enough experience to adequately comment on that.  The 350 has the best soundstage that I have heard for an IEM.  They sound is clearly projected in a 3D manner compared to the other IEMs I have heard (the worst of which tend to sound mono by comparison).  The HD800 they are not, but they are adequate for my portable listening.  I also think they are very strong in imaging and low level resolution.  Sometimes I feel that they image better than the HD800, though this is more likely a limitation of the rest of my gear with the HD800.  The low level resolution is enough to keep me intrigued.  I have no problem hearing details in recordings that I can hear in the HD800.  I also think that they do quite well in portraying accurate tonal qualities of the instruments.  I have played musical instruments all my life and played saxophone in a big band for a short time, so I do have some experience in this regard. 

One last thing, they are immensely improved by using comply foam tips.  They do a good job of cutting out the harshness from the treble.  While they don't improve the tonal qualities of cymbals, they definitely make the 350 more versatile for all types of music.  I listen to them for 5+ hours a day while I am at work. I listen at fairly low levels as well, which also helps avoid fatigue from treble.

I think overall it will depend on the music you listen to and whether you can deal with the treble.  I am not talking about the harshness of the beyer T90s or T1, it only really bothers me on cymbal heavy music.  Are they good value for money?  At $400 I am not sure that they are.  I have a feeling that others may be able to recommend something better for less.  I like them because they are universal, they have replaceable cables (I got tired of my other IEM cables breaking), and like you said the high impedence allows you to have more headroom from your DAP.

I hope this helped
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