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Author Topic: Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)  (Read 10496 times)

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Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)
« on: February 14, 2013, 08:01:00 AM »

Leckerton - Tighter, cleaner, clearer mids and treble. Cheaper.  Sound signature consistent throughout volume range if you get beyond channel imbalance early.  Choice for strings and vocals and pretty much all mids over the Glacier.  Works w/ Nokia N8 and USB on the Go.  DAC sounds better, swappable opamps.

Glacier - Slimmer, more led colors, digital pot for those that care.  Faster, better articulated bass, slightly wider SS but more muddled imaging at normal to lower volumes.  Imaging, bass separation and articulation become superbly phenomenal at loud listening volumes.  Not sure if a result of the digital pot or topology.  I'm betting pot.  Oddly mids never seem to catch the Leckerton.  Choice for rocking the drum kits over the Leckerton and extremely low or very high listening levels while keeping it slim.  Does not work with USB on the Go.

Results via PC (wasapi) > USB > both DAC/amps > UERM.  Switched to ODAC for both, Glacier gets closer to Leckerton once bypassing USB input.   

Things got unfair using CD transport > Coax > UHA6S mk2 when comparing the Glacier via USB.  Not part of the Glacier's repertoire.

Edit - Glacier has a slightly sweeter treble that's more fleshed out but less precise.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2013, 09:06:32 AM by Analixus »
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Re: Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 11:33:59 AM »

Interesting.

I was thinking about picking up a second portable amp to go along with my UHA-6S, and the Glacier keeps popping into my head. Seems like the Glacier would pair really well with my white Sony Z1070.

New stuff aside from that... the Pico Power? Uh, also Ray's ridiculous Intruder which I'm kind of ashamed to be thinking about.
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Re: Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2013, 07:05:08 PM »

This sounded really good at first but ended bad.

Imaging, bass separation and articulation become superbly phenomenal at loud listening volumes.
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Re: Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 07:30:16 PM »

When my UHA4 is connected to my N8 via USB OTG, the amp took it as a time to recharge its battery using my phone. Is the UHA6S like that too? I read somewhere that some portable amps can "switch off" their charging circuit.
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Re: Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2013, 07:54:35 PM »

That's odd, I don't think it should charge off the Nokia.  The 6 has a separate charging switch.  I didn't have the Nokia when I had the 4.
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Re: Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 07:55:40 PM »

This sounded really good at first but ended bad.
Imaging, bass separation and articulation become superbly phenomenal at loud listening volumes.


I thought it was a compliment.  :-\
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Re: Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2013, 08:21:06 PM »

Maybe he prefers low level volume listening? Though IME the UERM tends to open up a little bit at higher volumes as well.

Sounds like the Glacier is good, but wish the asking price were lower.
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Re: Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2013, 08:39:57 PM »

That's odd, I don't think it should charge off the Nokia.  The 6 has a separate charging switch.  I didn't have the Nokia when I had the 4.

Admittedly I don't use this kind of setup frequently, but from the few times I did, it came out like this. I might have to try it again some more. Well at least the 6 has a switch so that's a relief already.
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Re: Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 09:11:50 PM »

Update!

Thanks to my half-brother/father/BSDM partner Analixus

 Apex Glacier vs UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)

First, if you commute and wish to listen to music as you do so, then buy the glacier. the UHA is not usuable unless you love randomly hitting its giant volume knob. Even on a  desk or sitting beside me on a couch, I managed to hit the volume knob, it's a shitty design for a supposedly portable amp.

Also, the Glacier is twice as slim and doesn't scratch if you look at it. The UHA scratches by being placed in an atmosphere at sea level pressure. I avoided adding scratches to Analmort's UHA by swathing it a blanket of pure love for him (no safe word, that would scratch it).

Second, it seems Analmort used the Glacier at its lowest gain and the UHA at high gain. I have to say, I found the channel imbalance the UHA has with its analogue volume pot really annoying at any volume less than deafening. With iems, at least, it's a real problem even at low gain. The glacier has 3 gain levels and it's a lot better for iems use with its digital volume you can actually listen to it at whatever volume you like with both ears. Then again, I'm definitely going for moderate listening levels, mid-high 80s dB.

Okay, sound: Yes, the UHA is clearer in the mids. The Glacier is clear, but Pete Millett intentionally added a very little analogue/tube sound. It's actually a nice effect for me but not for everyone as it adds a small amount of warmth and smooths out the overall sound at the expense of that last full measure of devotion to detail.

Meanwhile, the UHA loses clarity in the bass with added bloom and the treble has a sharper, fatiguing quality to it compared to the glacier. I mostly can confirm what Analixus hears, just that he had the glacier on low gain, probably.

I haven't had a chance to really listen to the dacs, I think consumer-fi has some comparisons.

Overall, I can see people liking the UHA if it stays in one place (don't touch it!), but the glacier is actually very usable for commuting and has a nice sound. Not sure the price difference is worth it unless you commute.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2013, 10:53:48 PM by Kunlun »
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Re: Apex Glacier v. Leckerton UHA6S mk2 (OPA209)
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2013, 09:47:47 PM »

I use my uha-6 with a nano on the go. Stick it my pocket even. I've only once accidentally bumped the volume knob. Just isn't an issue for me. No scratches either. The only way I get channel imbalance is at volume levels lower than a flea fart.
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