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Re: I can't do this school thing anymore
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2012, 11:16:59 PM »

I'm not sure about the whole "you're in control of your life" bit. Sure, on paper that's the case, but if you have some deep-rooted depression, no motivation, and no clear idea what you want to do with your life, then it can be VERY difficult to actually start doing something.

Unfortunately, most people go to college at an age where they really can't appreciate it. I don't mean that as a put down, I was in the same boat.

I think it will be a good idea to go for a real change of scene - go out there and work for a while. You'll probably hate it, but you will very quickly gain a perspective for what you want to do - or even more likely, for what you DON'T want to do. The trick is to not sever yourself from school so completely that by the time you want to go to grad school you have no connections at all.

Plus, being on your own and having a pile of bills to pay, when the only real way to do so means working a menial job that you hate for people that don't care about you with few prospects for improvement, will put things into perspective real quick.

I do think that if you go into grad school with your current attitude, you'll be wasting your time, and lots of money besides. But also there is a possibility that if you go into a grad school that demands a lot of work time, and surround yourself with people that are actually intelligent and interesting, with professors that are motivated to teach and students that are motivated to learn, maybe you'll pick up enthusiasm for something.

Lastly, there's no faster path to mediocrity in life than waiting for inspiration. If you can't figure out what you want to do, just do something. If you don't like it, do something else. But hard as it may be, don't just sit there. And if all you want to do is sit there, then put yourself into a position where that's not an option. Which will be a hard step and will take a ton of guts, but will make you a better person in the end.
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Re: I can't do this school thing anymore
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2012, 11:48:05 PM »

School has two functions:

1-Academically test whether you can complete a task such as graduation to obtain a social rubber stamp before you move forward to next level options.

2-Provide intellectual rigor and content to broaden, extend and fulfill your greater sense of being and capabilities.

If neither meet your needs, drop out and move on.  In the US you can always go back if you want to later. 

What's amazing in the US is the incredible access to education even the most inept nimrod has.  In Europe or Asia an attitude like this would get you thrown out of school by age 14 and not by your choice.  Most likely get sent to the Central London school of Aluminum Siding before getting a permit to drive a car.
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Re: I can't do this school thing anymore
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2012, 12:13:59 AM »

I'm in a similar situation as you, I feel like trying to start a car with a dead battery in the winter... but I'm probably worst as I have just given up on university seeing I can't get myself to do a single homework anymore.

I never liked school. As a kid it was just a bunch of social frustration, being alone, and standing there doing nothing (and yes, I had a few good friends, and no, I wasn't getting bullied). Schools are good to teach kids useless stuff that they will forget about (they "acquire" it, but most of this activity is insignificant, untied to their reality, and will most likely never serve them [unless they got their life all figured out already]), but they never helped me understand myself, others, world, life, etc.

As an adult I have continued going to school, for no reason, but as I started searching for myself (asking myself questions such as "what do I like" and "what I want / want to do") and kept on not finding anything, my motivation for studying purposelessly wilted. I'm now in the middle of a desert, metaphorically, and still without a talent or knowledge. (*edit: And by desert I mean it; the harder the school got, the more I stopped playing video games, listening to new music [I have been sticking to my most stimulating pieces to get through the day for some years now], playing electric guitar, watching movies, going outside, having friends, fun, and much more...)
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Re: I can't do this school thing anymore
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2012, 12:25:06 AM »

@Anax Re: Droping out and moving on: That would be my plan if I didn't literally need 1 class after this semester, which I might be able to do in a 4-week summer school course.  (I'll ignore you possibly calling me a nimrod despite probably deserving it.  Also, despite the work ethic issues I did very well in elementary and highschool, meaning I would have been fine until I was 18, but likely kicked out of college sometime around 20 with no chance of ever going back, yeah.)

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I do think that if you go into grad school with your current attitude, you'll be wasting your time, and lots of money besides.

Yeah, like I said, I plan on just working for a little while as I try and sort out issues and get to a point where doing these things doesn't give me so much anxiety.

I'm sure I'll get some points taken away, but my professor for that class I had stuff due for today seemed fine with me putting it in his mailbox tomorrow as long as it's good.  They're intermediate drafts worth like 1% of my grade, so I don't really care what he takes off so long as I can give him something of some quality to discuss before working on my final portfolio next week.  Fonna turn the wifi off on my laptop tomorrow and go to the library after class.

Tonight, though, I feel like getting canned.


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Yeah, I feel you devouringone.  It doesn't help that literally everyone close to me dropped out of college in the first year or two for various reasons. 

The irony of this is that the class that's giving me the most stress right now is one I didn't actually need (for neither the credit nor hours).  I had a semi-roll going on last semester and thought I'd challenge myself with more creative writing, but instead I just got the biggest case of bullshit school anxiety I've ever had.
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Re: I can't do this school thing anymore
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2012, 04:33:33 AM »

Well I wasn't calling you a nimrod in particular, it was more of a general term applied to masses of nimrods.  Unless you are THE "most inept nimrod" you know of.   :)) :)p17
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Re: I can't do this school thing anymore
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2012, 08:17:37 AM »

When I was about 19 years old I worked a summer at a consumer electronics refurbishing operation maquiladora in Juarez, Mex. as a line technician/operator. Job was to fix RCA costumer return mini-recorders, telephones, and radios. A shitty, low paying (< $30 a week), and mechanical job. It was second shift (5pm to 1am I think.) Wonderful cafeteria. Best boss ever.

Nobody cared less about how intelligent, proactive, and creative I was. It was down to how many units I got out per day. Dude that made the most would get an extra $10. If the threshold was not meet though boss made sure I felt like an insignificant piece of shit. Really motivating.

Flipping burgers for a few months in the US may not be as bad, but probably motivating as well. Specially given how challenging and fun flipping burgers is.
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Re: I can't do this school thing anymore
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2012, 08:54:29 AM »

Do kids not start off at the bottom anymore?  Do they get an executive corner office out of the womb these days?  I started at freaking Taco Bell at 14.  Odd that my first job used headphones.   
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Re: I can't do this school thing anymore
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2012, 09:09:10 AM »

Do kids not start off at the bottom anymore?  Do they get an executive corner office out of the womb these days?  I started at freaking Taco Bell at 14.  Odd that my first job used headphones.   

A lot of people here in Singapore(not sure about every else) wants to start at a manager's role after a degree these days. No one wants to start from the floor. I expect to start off from the floor though, given the nature of my (future)job.
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Re: I can't do this school thing anymore
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2012, 09:20:35 AM »

I started out as a producers assistant in public entertainment event planning when I was 14. The job was interesting but ultimately I left after 4 years as it was a pain to juggle that and school. After that I funded my philosophy studies by working as a construction laborer.

Sure, unlike most of my course mates I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty but all in all- I'm afraid that I would have been better off if I had just studied instead of working in a completely unrelated field.
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Re: I can't do this school thing anymore
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2012, 09:34:56 AM »

Do kids not start off at the bottom anymore?  Do they get an executive corner office out of the womb these days?  I started at freaking Taco Bell at 14.  Odd that my first job used headphones.   

A lot of people here in Singapore(not sure about every else) wants to start at a manager's role after a degree these days. No one wants to start from the floor. I expect to start off from the floor though, given the nature of my (future)job.

Some time ago I started a thread here because I was fed up with my superiors at work. It often baffles me how newbie-superiors (or experienced for that matter) tend to look down on you when you clean up the mess while they can't even properly run their own workplace/department.

It happens all the time and when the shit hits the fan you can only hope the newbie has what it takes before you have to take over as an experienced subordinate...
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