Searched my username in google for shits and giggles and found this, so dead thread resurrection!

I get under your skin enough that I deserve my own thread?  Awesome.

Let me ask you this:

Have you got past your phobia of dummy heads and upgraded past using sponges on your measurement rig?

Are you still scared to tell people your testing methodologies, which when making a claim is kind of important?

Can you apply the same filters you claim the "other" sites use, like 1/3 octave and -30dB?  Maybe even use headphones they have in their system for comparison to see how off you claim they are?

Have you even found a study to correlate ringing audibility in relation to frequency, amplitude, and perception?  You know, something to actually give context to the graphs?  Or are you instead proposing others find their *own* context to go by, and as such your classification of good/bad is absolutely without reason?

How many here have seen a graph and went "THAT'S TERRIBLE" (or similar) without hands on or said corresponding context?

As for being a "nwavguy" minion - the only thing I own that even begins to relate to him is the O2 which isn't even my primary amp.  My DAC?  A DacMagic connected via toslink.  I don't have the HD650 which he loves as I don't care for it.  I have Pioneer Monitor 10's (original), AKG K702 and K601, ATH-AD700, etc.  I did own a pair of Stax 202 which were laughable sounding far to similar to the K601, without a hint of bass, to warrant keeping them.  I've had hands on with the HD800 which sounded like a better cousin to the K601.  Also tried some Mad Dogz TR50P and HE500's, the Mad Dog sounded too empty in areas, and the HE500 while not bad didn't really sound amazing though did sound better than the Stax.  Ultimately the HD800 sounded the best, but not enough to warrant the asking price IMO.  Would eventually like to try higher end Stax, but finding a place to try them is a PITA.

But yes, by all means I'm a NwAvGuy minion - because I question measurements and their applicability on something he hasn't even discussed once. 

//will probably get flamed/banned for dare questioning Purrin's absolute word.

Nope, but you'll get flamed for not posting first in the new members section. 

And it's obvious that you you're not going to fit in anyway with all the assumptions and hyperbole you're tossing around in that post, so save us the trouble and head to for next google hit on your list.

Have you ever asked a question that wasn't indicative of your intellectual disability?  My turds are brighter than you, now go  .

Edit - If you ever learn to read, three things would happen:

1-You'd be able to answer your own stupid questions.
2-You'd stop mischaracterizing everything people say that you don't agree with and shifting arguments.
3-You'd go somewhere where you were welcome.  Perhaps an institute that measures coat hangers and hands out Quaaludes.

Btw, where's your girlfriend NWAVass?  Ran for the hills after shilling his own products hiding from the liable lawsuits?  A little basic arithmetic is all it took to build an army of the blind charging the walls of Jerusalem waving the banner of Objectivity.  How's it feel to be part of audio's Children's Crusade?   

Quote from: Shike on February 03, 2013, 08:19:55 AM

How many here have seen a graph and went "THAT'S TERRIBLE" (or similar) without hands on or said corresponding context?

There are a couple of things that a frequency response plots and CSD won't tell you. Part of the remaining story may be found in non-linear behavior characterization plots such as THD, IMD, and HF. But even then, there are perceptions of pitch that full on characterization won't tell you. Dummy heads will not tell you the whole story, and I think you know that...

Of course they don't tell everything.  However, the whole thread was made because I questioned the validity of his testing in practice and noted other sites with what I consider better testing equipment (and transparent testing methodologies) had generally less ringing even if they were smoothed in comparison.

Anyway, the deal here is to get along... Otherwise what's the point?

Ask Purrin and Anax, I apparently must have really thrown him in a tissy to make this thread.

Edit - If you ever learn to read, three things would happen:

1-You'd be able to answer your own stupid questions.
2-You'd stop mischaracterizing everything people say that you don't agree with and shifting arguments.
3-You'd go somewhere where you were welcome.  Perhaps an institute that measures coat hangers and hands out Quaaludes.

Btw, where's your girlfriend NWAVass?  Ran for the hills after shilling his own products hiding from the liable lawsuits?  A little basic arithmetic is all it took to build an army of the blind charging the walls of Jerusalem waving the banner of Objectivity.  How's it feel to be part of audio's Children's Crusade?[/quote]

Rhetorical questions sparky.

As for shilling - that word doesn't mean what you think it means.