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Author Topic: Here you go, just for you Shike.  (Read 14493 times)

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Re: Here you go, just for you Shike.
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 03:37:56 PM »

Indeed. If the purpose of a pretty plot is to guide us on what to expect from a product, the plot parameters need to be carefully chosen based on our SUBJECTIVE evaluation of said product. Otherwise, pretty plots are useless.

You have to remember that Shike actually doesn't listen to stuff. I don't think he even has access to the stuff. (Unless his master tells him to buy it.) He just looks at the measurements.

I'm sure he glanced over at GE's site and determined that the measurements here overemphasized ringing based on his comparison of the charts. Mainly because I don't smooth the CSDs, use a lower floor, and use a low rise time for the FFT left window. I even attempt to normalize the levels with a higher weight placed on the upper mids / lower treble compared to the rest of the spectrum. A lot of thoughtful work has actually gone into the math and visualization aspects of the measurements here.

And you are right, many nuances of the CSD presentations have been tweaked to reflect upon what I can and do hear. I wouldn't be posting these if there wasn't good correlation with subjective experience. But you guys already know this. What's awesome is seeing you guys learning the system. At H3, CEETEE called out the minor FR irregularities of the Orpheus while he was listening. He was spot on in indicating all three bumps at 4, 7, and 10kHz.
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Re: Here you go, just for you Shike.
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 04:11:13 PM »

You have to remember that Shike actually doesn't listen to stuff. I don't think he even has access to the stuff. (Unless his master tells him to buy it.) He just looks at the measurements.

Out of curiosity, who is Shike's master?
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Re: Here you go, just for you Shike.
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 04:18:01 PM »

nwavguy.
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Re: Here you go, just for you Shike.
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 04:19:16 PM »

nwavguy.

Oh, duh, right. I was thinking of another head-fier for some reason.
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Re: Here you go, just for you Shike.
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 04:36:13 PM »

I wonder how long it will take people to infer a similar cult of personality about Marv and assume pirates posting like-mindedly on HF are "mindless minions" who just regurgitate his opinions.  One or two crazies on IF already have.  I'd like to think most of us sound less crazed and insane than the average prostelytizer but crazy people never think they're crazy, it's the rest of the world that's insane.



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Re: Here you go, just for you Shike.
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2012, 04:39:36 PM »

Just look at that bold leading edge for the Jades.  Now that's what I call a strong attack, Grado owners would be jealous!   ;)
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Re: Here you go, just for you Shike.
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2012, 10:10:29 PM »

HD700 here! What's cool is that these headphones sound better now that I've revised my measurement methodology!

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Re: Here you go, just for you Shike.
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2012, 10:48:49 PM »

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Re: Here you go, just for you Shike.
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2012, 02:49:48 PM »

Do you have to re-do the test or can you just re-process existing data?
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Re: Here you go, just for you Shike.
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2012, 10:58:35 PM »

I have no idea who Shike is.  :)p1
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