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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2015, 08:41:54 AM »
Quote from: numbercube on September 14, 2015, 08:28:43 AM
on windows, I ...

Not VST, but, on Linux, using JACK, I use Calf plugins. Ido feel that the is a small loss of sound quality, though.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #71 on: September 14, 2015, 09:09:42 AM »
Quote from: Priidik on September 10, 2015, 04:42:49 PM
Most impressive. Your's doesn't have that low-fi grain/mud and lack of life that every other eq (or any dsp) has pro or consumer i have tried. I'm religious in this and usually hatered comes from me regarding dsp-s.
HD800 preset though coupled with my cranium + some rug liner mod have way too much bass and some weirdness in upper treble.
The upper treble thing is at least partly due the mod (guessing), though some dizziness is unlikely due to the mod.  Bass is easy to fix with the bass slider.

Point by point:
- more depth and frontal projection in headstage, somewhat less width and slight confusion in imaging (needs verifing). Makes me wonder whether some cross-feed is being used?
- tonal balance is definently closer to Genelec 8050 than before. I don't know yet what to make out of this, will listen more.
- I like the bass quality. Though this is entry-basshead levels of quantity, generaly not my thing, but at times :D ....
- No apparent lack of dynamics and fluidity.
- Treble is sometimes sizzling and slightly grating.
- Maybe some slight microdynamic compression
- Aids the mod in shelving excessive brightness
- Less shouty in some tracks mic-ed closely
Will report back with more complete impressions. Definently recommend to pirates!
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Some well recorded pipe organ music, with non-overloaded extreme bottom end, is MOST impressive.

But there is some zizz in the upper mids that can get seemingly 'triggered' by certain complex harmonic 'voices' (both organic and instrumental), which is or can be disconserting when it 'goes off'.

I'm hoing that this can and will be 'fixed' somehow someway…
Because thus far even with the (I assume) mismatch between the correction of the 'stock' cans and my modded 800's, the results are better in most of, if not all of, the key aspects I use to decide what IS better.

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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #72 on: September 14, 2015, 09:05:50 PM »
I did also EQ my HD800 according to the harman curve.
I have been using an EQ with them ever since and kept refining the settings.
(basically it was a bass boost + reducing treble peaks before)

The first few minutes I wasn't too sure about that quite significant change in the 1,5khz region.
I'm using the new settings for a few days now and the "new" sound has really settled on me
and I think voices are really sounding better. First I thought they sounded slightly nasal to me after the change.
But it's actually like the voices now sound more distinct and less distant and have more character to them.

I think it's really worth trying out.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #73 on: September 14, 2015, 10:59:31 PM »
Why don't you guys make your own target curves. The Harmon / OW curves is like beating a dead horse.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #74 on: September 14, 2015, 11:19:35 PM »
Quote from: Marvey on September 14, 2015, 10:59:31 PM
Why don't you guys make your own target curves. The Harmon / OW curves is like beating a dead horse.

Well there might be something to it if that's what Anax 3.0 is doing. But 3.0 also does other really good things so maybe I'm getting them confused.

We still don't have a lot of people posting listening impressions of their OW-ized headphones. Has anyone tried OW-ing their HD6xx, LCD, Hifiman, Stax, etc?
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2015, 11:37:29 PM »
I have ATH m50 MkII and I am trying to figure out how to go about getting them to match the curve. Can someone explain? I have jriver and several VST eqs.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #76 on: September 15, 2015, 12:02:19 AM »
Quote from: theoctavist on September 14, 2015, 11:37:29 PM
I have ATH m50 MkII and I am trying to figure out how to go about getting them to match the curve. Can someone explain? I have jriver and several VST eqs.

Does MkII mean M50x?
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #77 on: September 15, 2015, 02:00:15 AM »
Quote from: OJneg on September 15, 2015, 12:02:19 AM
Does MkII mean M50x?
Audiotechnica retuned the m50 to be slightly less bass bloated before they made the current x version.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #78 on: September 23, 2015, 09:04:05 PM »
Late to the discussion but regardless: Does anybody know which revision of anax mod was used in the HD800 Tyll measured and Bob EQed?

P.S As an EQ first timer I tried to recreate the EQ according to Tylls notes. This is the results: http://imgur.com/leWdmw9

Feel free to let me know if I fucked up big time.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #79 on: September 23, 2015, 09:14:38 PM »
Quote from: KurtSvensson on September 23, 2015, 09:04:05 PM
Late to the discussion but regardless: Does anybody know which revision of anax mod was used in the HD800 Tyll measured and Bob EQed?

P.S As an EQ first timer I tried to recreate the EQ according to Tylls notes. This is the results: http://imgur.com/leWdmw9

Feel free to let me know if I fucked up big time.

They might have been using stock...or the mods that are outlined in the Innerfidelity article. Which as I understand is different from Anax 2.0.

You need to make the treble EQ much higher Q. You want to kill that 6k peak, not bring down everything
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