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Filbrik

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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2015, 05:42:20 AM »

Thanks. I had tried that, but the ones I used did nothing. BTW, there are 23 .dll files in my jRiver.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2015, 06:04:46 AM »

Yes, the 3db bass boost is the listeners' preferred curve.  The bass boost is iffy for me, because some headphones just have natural, extending, and potent bass.  Others don't.  So some need the boost, some don't.  The HD800 has natural, potent, and well extending bass.  The only EQ it needs in the bass region is to compensate for rolloff, but it definitely doesn't need a boost throughout the entire region.  It already has a little hump in the mid-bass to begin with.  Other headphones with measurably flat bass like the older LCD2 and now the LCD-X, don't need it either.  Some headphones, like the Focal Spirit Professional have that 3db hump, and it sounds nice and balanced.


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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2015, 06:19:36 AM »

Could the .dll files be applied to work with Apple Music on a PC?
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2015, 01:24:38 PM »

Sonarworks made HD 25s semi listenable but didn't really improve the current HD 600 and HD 650 enough. Maybe if I were mixing on the HD 650 but I wouldn't mix on the HD 650 on the go as then I would need to carry around an amp powerful enough to use their DSP with the HD 650.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2015, 01:40:02 PM »

Besides compensating for bass roll-off, there isn't that much to correct on the HD650. These and the HD600 are one of the most neutral headphones currently on the market.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2015, 02:09:45 PM »

How equivalent is Tyll's measurement system to Sean Olive's measurement system? This might be crucial. For example, maybe Tyll gets a better seal than Olive.

He uses a Kemar from B&K. Theoretically it should be quite close.

Please folks remember that the current Harman curve is their first pass guestimate and existed to include in blind testing vs. other compensation curve to see if it was preferred----which it was.   It does not represent a finished proposed standardization curve to be added to any of the international standards. So, it should be strongly considered a work in progress still.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #66 on: September 14, 2015, 06:22:22 AM »

https://youtu.be/J-q4J4OY4EM?t=1897

I'd just like to qualify my take on the previously mentioned OW curve. It turns out the 3.0 variant of the Anax mod already has a similar boost/compensation in the upper mids which would (as I understand) make my proposed EQ curve wrong. Would also explain my negative reaction.
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #67 on: September 14, 2015, 07:41:58 AM »

Speaking of VSTs, is there a way to apply VSTs system-wide? 
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Re: Playing with Harman target EQ curve with various hi-fi headphones
« Reply #68 on: September 14, 2015, 08:27:18 AM »

If you are just looking for a system wide parametric EQ I would recommend Equalizer APO.
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