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With recent debacles, Dan's reached new levels of douchebaggery. How much of a douche is he?

He's a good guy, but...
- 17 (23%)
Amuse-douche http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Amuse-douche
- 11 (14.9%)
Moderately douchey
- 22 (29.7%)
Supremely douchey
- 9 (12.2%)
King Jude... err King Douche
- 15 (20.3%)

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Re: MrSpeakers/Dan douchebaggery poll
« Reply #60 on: August 22, 2015, 08:08:55 PM »

BTW, just noticed the $200-$250 DUM cable! :)p13

I also get the feeling that Head-Fi gives a lot of front page coverage to MrSpeakers. Consider that there are perhaps a bit more HiFiMan products with perhaps quite a bit more threads over there relative to MrSpeakers offerings.

Then again, it's Jude's forum. He certainly can go bananas over MrSpeakers if he wants to.
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Re: MrSpeakers/Dan douchebaggery poll
« Reply #61 on: August 22, 2015, 08:12:14 PM »

HEK/EF6 got its share. So did Rag/Yggy. So did Shure 1440/1840. The list goes on. But if you want to discuss little points, I don't remember Jude ever doing a HFM triple-jizz-bang bonanza with the top three HFM headphones: HEK, HE-560, and HE-6 within the span of less than a year... or even a Schiit triple-jizz. (I might be guilty of a Schiit quad-jizz, but hey shoot me - not my fault Schiit released a ton of crap last year at prices were I could afford to BUY all of them themself, or BUY them and put them on the CS loaner program or share.)

Finally, I don't have a problem with advertising, and I'm certainly not going to go all Arthur Salvatore over it, but certain things do appear kind of icky. At least Stereophile there's some level of independence, a "Chinese wall" at least. Stereophile also has JA who measures shit, is knowledgeable about measurements, and calls a spade a spade. The two or three measurements Jude has done with his version of C.U.N.T. (G.R.A.S.S. or whatever) seem selective, and even then, he's not technical - he's an idiot when it comes to understanding or interpreting stuff like this.

Fang doesn't pay Jude nearly enough for him to police over every small post on Head-Fi or advertise his products.
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Re: MrSpeakers/Dan douchebaggery poll
« Reply #62 on: August 22, 2015, 08:15:48 PM »

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HEK/EF6 got its share. So did Rag/Yggy. So did Shure 1440/1840. The list goes on. But if you want to discuss little points, I don't remember Jude ever doing a HFM triple-jizz-bang bonanza with the top three HFM headphones: HEK, HE-560, and HE-6 within the span of less than a year... or even a Schiit triple-jizz. (I might be guilty of a Schiit quad-jizz, but hey shoot me - not my fault Schiit released a ton of crap last year at prices were I could afford to BUY all of them themself, or BUY them and put them on the CS loaner program or share.)

Finally, I don't have a problem with advertising, and I'm certainly not going to go all Arthur Salvatore over it, but certain things do appear kind of icky. At least Stereophile has some level of independence, albeit a "Chinese wall". Stereophile also has JA who measures shit, is knowledgeable about measurements, and calls a spade a spade. The two or three measurements Jude has done with his version of C.U.N.T. (G.R.A.S.S. or whatever) seem selective, and even then, he's not technical - he's an idiot when it comes to understanding or interpreting stuff like this.

Agreed. That's why I'm here.

I'd just say that Dan's getting his money's worth. Now I'm not going to the mall expecting the employees to tell me I should go to another shop. I couldn't give two shit about what's pimped on hf, but I understand some of you guys are impacted in a different way than I am.
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Re: MrSpeakers/Dan douchebaggery poll
« Reply #63 on: August 22, 2015, 08:23:35 PM »

Fang doesn't pay Jude nearly enough for him to police over every small post on Head-Fi or advertise his products.

@Frenchbat: since you wanted to know more, and this is 70% heresay, rumor, etc. ...

More than a few rather inane posts on product information of Mr.Speakers competitors have been deleted by mysterious persons flagging them as violating "rules". Also quite a few people here who have criticized the sound quality of Mr.Speakers products have been banned from his product threads.

Again, it would appear that Mr.Speakers receives very favorable treatment on HF. I don't see this favoritism this extending to HFM, Sennheiser, etc. There have been lots of criticisms on HEK, HE560, HD700 threads over there. Then again, it's likely the folks at HFM, Sennheiser, or others just don't care enough to press the red-flag button, or call the Jude hotline.
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Re: MrSpeakers/Dan douchebaggery poll
« Reply #64 on: August 22, 2015, 08:29:46 PM »

Could be he pays a protection fee, like shop owners do to local mafia.  If you don't pay it then your windows don't get broken in.

Thing with HFM, I think the boss doesnt visit the head-fi shop that often to care if windows get broken, whereas Dan probably want to keep his windows in top condition.
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Re: MrSpeakers/Dan douchebaggery poll
« Reply #65 on: August 22, 2015, 08:32:08 PM »

@Frenchbat: since you wanted to know more, and this is 100% heresay ... more than a few rather inane posts on product information of Mr.Speakers competitors have been deleted by mysterious persons flagging them as violating "rules".

If Dan is found directly or indirectly, fully or partially responsible for this, I expect a "leasson's learned", "sorry, we didn't know what we were doing", "we screwed up, but now we know better", "come to our office, will bring gurls and booze. See how cool we are. Repeat after me. Mr. Speakers. Is. Cool. Repeat Again.", speak or something like that.

It is what it is. Maybe Dan means it. Maybe be not. Who cares. I mean, front page or not, I may be wrong, but I don't think MrSpeakers threads are getting that much activity. He needs to pay Jude more. And Jude needs to have a MrSpeakers Day every week where all of the Front Page is all about MrSpeakers.
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Re: MrSpeakers/Dan douchebaggery poll
« Reply #66 on: August 22, 2015, 08:38:24 PM »

Not denying the favoritism Marv'. Just saying that I do think as Knerian, that Dan's getting his money's worth. Maybe it's paid, maybe it's whining to Jude, or sexual favor, dunno, don't wanna. I've heard other things, not specific to MrSpeakers. Could be HFM, Senn, etc are just smarter in their strategy, and it's not as visible.
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Re: MrSpeakers/Dan douchebaggery poll
« Reply #67 on: August 22, 2015, 08:39:49 PM »

Jude flat out told a pirate on the phone that Dan was the one who directly complained about me to Jude (despite having bought them new) in the Alpha Prime thread. Many of my posts were deleted and I was banned from the thread.
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Re: MrSpeakers/Dan douchebaggery poll
« Reply #68 on: August 22, 2015, 08:47:52 PM »

Not denying the favoritism Marv'. Just saying that I do think as Knerian, that Dan's getting his money's worth. Maybe it's paid, maybe it's whining to Jude, or sexual favor, dunno, don't wanna. I've heard other things, not specific to MrSpeakers. Could be HFM, Senn, etc are just smarter in their strategy, and it's not as visible.

I agree with your "the smarter in their strategy" assesment. IMO and from the little I've seen in the past, Dan can get very emotional and perhaps even irrational when he feels his business threatened. That is not very smart nor healty if you ask me.

At some point one just needs to live life and sip some margaritas and don't give two shits. You do the best you can and fuck it. Dan seems to go bananas however and seems to start doing some pretty questionable stuff. Say, I measured his cans, they do alright... not enough. Dan expected uber-awesome. So measurements are shit. That's from my humble, not giving a shit side. Other guys I trust however, seemed to have experiensed the full power of Dan's force lightning.
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Re: MrSpeakers/Dan douchebaggery poll
« Reply #69 on: August 22, 2015, 08:56:52 PM »

Jude flat out told a pirate on the phone that Dan was the one who directly complained about me to Jude (despite having bought them new) in the Alpha Prime thread. Many of my posts were deleted and I was banned from the thread.

If I remember correctly, none of your posts were rude, angry, or dishonest. You even directly admitted that the mystery pair sent to me - you purchased yourself - and also the reasons for doing so: inconsistency from not one, but two other units (and the fact that I heard one other at CanJam, which did sound good)

FWIW, I find this paragraph rather cute from Jude, obviously a reply to your questions regarding product consistency (which have probably been deleted):

NOTE: MrSpeakers shared overlaid measurements with me of a five-unit pull, and the consistency was excellent. I’m confident what I’m hearing is what will go to production. I’ll confirm this when I hear a final shipping version.
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