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Author Topic: The SchiitShow / Mr.SpeakersShow @ MdR, Saturday, Aug 15,2015 IMPRESSIONS  (Read 9950 times)

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Re: The SchiitShow @ Marina del Rey, Saturday, August 15,2015 Impressions
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2015, 12:30:43 AM »

Does Mjolnir 2 with the LISST tubes sound just like the original Mjolnir? How does it sound with the stock tubes?

Mojo 2 with the LISST solid-state tubes sounds better than the original Mojo. The familial resemblance is there, but the sound is more refined. The old Mjolnir had sort of a jumpy staticky raw treble. The Mojo 2 seems to have calmed this behavior down. The Mojo 2 with the LISST is actually more neutral and cohesive sounding throughout the audio band compared to the Mojo 2 with the glass tubes.

The Mojo 2 with the glass tubes is really the spiritual successor to the Lyr. Quite a bit of warmth. That being said, the Mojo 2 with glass tubes is has a very lively engaging sound (and makes more use of the MB Gungnir's capabilities than the metal cans). It's the and obvious clear upgrade path of for those who like the Lyr. Folks I talked to were split on what they preferred. I personally would probably give the nod to the real tubes despite the extra warmth (I could always use HD600s instead of HD650 if you get my drift.) Also, I have no idea what the stock tubes in the Mojo 2 were. I'm sure rolling some vintage tubes would result in a better sound or different tonal balance.

For Lyr, I preferred the LISST. Maybe someone could remind me to comment on this later.
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Re: The SchiitShow @ Marina del Rey, Saturday, August 15,2015 Impressions
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2015, 12:56:02 AM »

Recent impressions of the multibit Gungnir have been less than stellar. What's the word o that bad boy at the Schiit show? I imagine it's the final production model there?
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Re: The SchiitShow @ Marina del Rey, Saturday, August 15,2015 Impressions
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2015, 01:16:30 AM »

Ok, Marve, since you asked - if I buy the Corben Dallas Multibits Gungnir, will I always regret not having bought the Ygg? I'm in a financially restricted situation atm so legit question...

I'm still in the process of tweaking the M7 (got an I2S FIFO buffer on the way) but have been planning to audition a Ygg in future based on all the hypes.
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Re: The SchiitShow @ Marina del Rey, Saturday, August 15,2015 Impressions
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2015, 01:17:59 AM »

Recent impressions of the multibit Gungnir have been less than stellar. What's the word o that bad boy at the Schiit show? I imagine it's the final production model there?

I think there may have been some confusion at the Colorado meet. I asked Jason about this, and it's my understanding there was no multi-bit Gungnir there at all. (There seems to be some confusion in the terms reDACted and reDACted^2 is my guess). I didn't hear MB-Gungnir at the Schiit show as any different from the unit I have here at home. The 90% of Yggy assessment still stands. It gets a few points closer with Wyrd. I will do a more significant write-up later - probably won't be more than a few paragraphs.

Ok, Marve, since you asked - if I buy the Corben Dallas Multibits Gungnir, will I always regret not having bought the Ygg? I'm in a financially restricted situation atm so legit question...

I personally have been using MB-Gungnir and Yggy interchangeably for a little while for two reasons: I've been going to shows as part of the Eddie Current crew, so I need the best DAC I have to show off EC amps; purposely to see if I miss one to the extent where I bother switching stuff on the rack. The fact is, when Yggy has been replaced by multi-bit Gungnir on the rack (whether it be my headphone setup or speaker setup), I don't miss it. This cannot be said of regular sigma-delta Gungnir - which cannot replace Yggy. The ultimate qualifier being musical involvement, i.e. does this make me continue listening? That being said, Yggy is better than MB-Gungnir.
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Re: The SchiitShow @ Marina del Rey, Saturday, August 15,2015 Impressions
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2015, 01:23:26 AM »

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Re: The SchiitShow @ Marina del Rey, Saturday, August 15,2015 Impressions
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2015, 01:34:49 AM »

Lol, that scale making the response variations look smaller than they are.

Also, yes, we must have mixed up reDACted terms at the Boulder meet. And don't worry much about those impressions. I've only heard positive things so far about MB Gungnir.
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Re: The SchiitShow @ Marina del Rey, Saturday, August 15,2015 Impressions
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2015, 01:37:07 AM »

now that redacted ^2 is announced, any word on redacted timeframe?

gosh I need to know this, excited but at the same time a little bummed about this.
I wanted to get myself a nice birthday present - but not MB Gungnir level of nice.
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Re: The SchiitShow @ Marina del Rey, Saturday, August 15,2015 Impressions
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2015, 02:10:58 AM »

1. So to clarify, is Gungnir MB = reDACted? Some people are saying that Gungnir MB = reDACted^2, so it's getting a bit confusing. Or, is Gungnir MB neither reDACted nor reDACted^2?

2. I have a feeling Mojo 2 might be a good match for power hungry orthos, but how well does it fare with high-impedance Senn HD6x0 and HD800 respectively (either tube or LISST, whichever's better)?

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The fact is, when Yggy has been replaced by multi-bit Gungnir on the rack (whether it be my headphone setup or speaker setup), I don't miss it.

Assuming you're using Senn HD6x0/800, would you feel the same way for Mojo 2 if Ragnarok or say, Black Widow, were replaced by it? I'm sure Rag and BW are superior to Mojo 2 but is the difference big enough that switching to Mojo 2 will make you miss the other two a lot?
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Re: The SchiitShow @ Marina del Rey, Saturday, August 15,2015 Impressions
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2015, 02:24:00 AM »

Thanks all for the impressions and pictures. Looks like a great show !
Congratulations to Jason Mike and the crew.

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Re: The SchiitShow @ Marina del Rey, Saturday, August 15,2015 Impressions
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2015, 02:27:51 AM »

I am really interested in the BW as well. I love my schiit Vali and if the EC house sound is similar to it, I can see myself getting one. I currently own an LCD2.2 and was always tempted by its pairing with the Mjolnir, but reading the impressions here, it seems that the BW is more versatile... especially with the HD800 (or HD6xx), since I am strongly considering picking up a pair soon.

Did anyone happen to try M2 with an HD800? Interested in hearing impressions.
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