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Re: Chi-fi Clones
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2015, 04:39:23 AM »

My opinion (for what it's worth):

1. The production of "clone" products is a sad commentary on the company doing the cloning--their lack of vision and inherently opportunistic nature is prominently on display. This is not something that I'd wish to support, but I understand if your feelings differ. Especially given the next point.

2. The existence of "clone" products is a sad commentary on the rapacious pricing models of the companies producing the products being cloned. It doesn't matter if it's an audio product or a handbag, if a credible* copy can be produced and sold for 6-10x less money, then the pricing of the original product is wrong.**

*Please note that "credible" is a highly loaded word in this case, implying the clone's quality is on par or very similar, that no fake parts are used where the original has high-spec, high-$ components, that the product doesn't immediately break and offer no recourse when received, etc.

**Whether the price is high due to inefficiency, overinvestment in marketing/brand, "well, that's what the market will bear" mentality, artificial scarcity, cost to handcraft with first-world labor, etc doesn't matter--if it is stupidly high, it's a target for cloning.

In an ideal world, the clone companies would simply produce a better product at a lower price that directly competes with the products they are currently cloning--which would provide all the incentive the overpriced brands would need to introduce more realistic pricing. Then, the system works, and everyone wins.

To date, our stuff hasn't been cloned. Why? Because there are much more tempting targets--ones with much higher ROI.
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Re: Chi-fi Clones
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2015, 05:18:14 AM »

Your stuff's schiit, that's why it hasn't been cloned!  :)p13

(Sorry; that was just too obvious to let it pass)  :)p3

But seriously, I think that we agree (even though I do purchase cloned products).
I guess it is capitalism (again  :-[ ) at work; if a company is profiteering and just charging so much more than it needs to, then this leaves the door open for another kind of unscrupulous behaviour, the cloners. Surely, if a genuine and entrepreneurial company is keeping prices reasonable, this will leave little room for the cloners to undercut.

The Chinese take brand names very seriously; appearances are particularly important in their culture, and so is the trust that a brand name brings. But China is such a huge and unregulated market, it doesn't matter whether us 'foreign' buyers take the risk of buying Chinese; the Chinese people buy enough stuff themselves, whether it's a clone or a pure fake; the market is huge. The only regulation that's solidly maintained is the import tax on foreign goods (always putting a real premium on imported goods!).
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Re: Chi-fi Clones
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2015, 11:06:10 AM »

The Michael Jordan case in China is interesting. Brands and trademarks are fair game, even the Air Jordan brand.

Here is the URL: http://qz.com/467625/in-china-michael-jordan-does-not-hold-the-rights-to-his-own-name/
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