yeah Dave. was specifically looking at 2006 models.. not anything older.

I just can't seem to come to terms on dropping 20k for a 04-05 subaru wrx sti with 80k + miles on it.

Alternatively, a VW Phaeton is an option if i can find one with the W12 config instead of the standard V8.

An AUdi S4 is still on the cards..just felt a little cramped in the AUdi A4. can't imagine its any different on the S4.

We're getting a Lexus CT Hybrid. Shuffling the kids around in the big SUV that only takes premium gas is like burning $20 bills.

My wife and I looked at the Prius and were shocked how the price has crept up over the years. The cloth seats for the Prius Two suck (we are talking low-end Toyota Yaris quality), and we need to pay $4000 more just to get pleather seats (Prius Four) which aren't even that good. It seems that the Prius has become too trendy and popular, so Toyota knows they can jack up the price.

The Lexus CT is built on the same platform, has a "SPORT" button which makes the throttle more responsive, rides 100 times better, and has super comfy seats. I don't need gizmos, and given that the low-end Lexus CT is almost the same price as a high-end Prius, the CT is a no-brainer.

I like the CT a lot. Couldn't get it equipped how I wanted though so ended up going with something different.

yeah Dave. was specifically looking at 2006 models.. not anything older.

Alternatively, a VW Phaeton is an option if i can find one with the W12 config instead of the standard V8.

An AUdi S4 is still on the cards..just felt a little cramped in the AUdi A4. can't imagine its any different on the S4.

I'm not much of a Scoobie guy. I feel like once you're past age 29, you start to look ridiculous inside a WRX or Lancer EVO. RUN, do not walk, away from a Phaeton. Talk about a shop queen. Anybody can work on a Jetta or a Golf. Only a select few VW techs are certified to even open the hood on a Phaeton. Aside from that, the electronics are a thousand years old (they were obsolete when the cars were new) and the interiors are just average. The previous gen Audi A8 is just a better car in every way. It's about 500lbs. lighter thanks to the aluminum instead of steel body, and everything is nicer inside. That generation A8 is still competitive today with the current S-class and 7.

The reason to get the S4 (aside from the engine of course) is the seats. The A4 seats are just crap. I don't think Audi is using Recaro anymore for their S cars, but the S4 seats are still a 1000% improvement. That, and you want the premier AWD sports sedan. The F30 BMW 3 is very nice, but BMW just doesn't take AWD that seriously, at least that used to be the case. The new 3 is softer in general, so the Sport+ settings and equipment may now be the same on the RWD and xi car. MB doesn't care at all, 4Matic is dumped on the unloved C300, and in any case the C isn't a real contender in this fight. It now looks as nice as its Munich and Ingolstatd rivals, but it doesn't drive like them. The C63 is the fun one.

Buick is GM's number one cash cow in China, they could give a rat's ass about the US market as long as we buy Silverados.


Honda hybrids/IMA can't run on pure electricity.

You in Lexus Mission Viejo?