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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1390 on: June 30, 2015, 03:46:30 AM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on June 30, 2015, 03:39:16 AM
Yeah, they took the cooler from Lexus. Does Equus have the reclining rear massage seats too? Not sure why more don't have reclining rear seats. I think a Scion even had those at one time (normal seats).

Bentleys, Rolls, and Aston are much nicer unfortunately. Whole other level of refinement.
Actually never drove a Lexus. I didn't sit in the back of the Equus, drove it and have seen it in the showroom, but don't know anything about the massage seats. I Googled and it seems  that it depends on the model though.

Looks like the 2013 had the cooler/backseat massages, while the 2014 got rid of those two and put front seat massage chairs. Weird choice imo, but I don't think the newer ones changed. Not sure though. I haven't fully checked them out.

If RR and Bently are that much more refined then I totally get why people buy them. I can't figure out why people buy Mercedes over the Equus, in my experience, other than name though.

Edit: Seems they got rid of the massage seats in general from reading that.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1391 on: June 30, 2015, 03:58:49 AM »
Why do you (americans and canadians) don't care for hatchs?

I looked on some websites and there's no hatch A3, A1, no BMW 1xx hatch, no Imprenza, Mercedez Class A...

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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1392 on: June 30, 2015, 04:00:22 AM »
Quote from: altrunox on June 30, 2015, 03:58:49 AM
Why do you (americans and canadians) don't care for hatchs?

I looked on some websites and there's no hatch A3, A1, no BMW 1xx hatch, no Imprenza, Mercedez Class A...



I see more hatchbacks in America than ever growing up. I own a hatchback myself.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1393 on: June 30, 2015, 04:08:57 AM »
Quote from: keanex on June 30, 2015, 03:46:30 AM
If RR and Bently are that much more refined then I totally get why people buy them. I can't figure out why people buy Mercedes over the Equus, in my experience, other than name though.

It depends which S-class. The W220 sucked. W221 was a major step in the right direction, if still imperfect. If you think that the Equus is in the same league as the W222 though, I'm sorry but you're dreaming. The 222 can easily be compared to the Bentley Flying Spur and the Rolls Royce Ghost. The Equus? Uh.. NO.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1394 on: June 30, 2015, 04:12:03 AM »
I like hatchbacks.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1395 on: June 30, 2015, 04:17:56 AM »
Quote from: altrunox on June 30, 2015, 03:58:49 AM
Why do you (americans and canadians) don't care for hatchs?

I looked on some websites and there's no hatch A3, A1, no BMW 1xx hatch, no Imprenza, Mercedez Class A...

Americans tend to equate hatchbacks with cheap car. We do buy them, just rarely outside of B and C-segment models from mainstream brands. The previous A3 hatch was largely unsellable in the US outside of coastal cities, which is why we now get it as a compact sedan. Same reason BMW only gives us the 2-series and Mercedes only gives us the CLA and GLA. Buyers of German luxury brands are usually seeking status, and a cheapie hatch just doesn't bring that.

Even the Golf does very modestly here compared to the massive sales it does world wide. EU buyers see it as a family car, here families buy Honda CR-Vs.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1396 on: June 30, 2015, 04:23:40 AM »
Quote from: altrunox on June 30, 2015, 03:58:49 AM
Why do you (americans and canadians) don't care for hatchs?

I looked on some websites and there's no hatch A3, A1, no BMW 1xx hatch, no Imprenza, Mercedez Class A...



We like hatchbacks here. We just have a different name for them.





One could say American style hatchbacks are the number one selling type of vehicle in the US.

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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1397 on: June 30, 2015, 04:29:28 AM »
Just saying I usually prefer hatchbacks than sedans...

Quote from: DaveBSC on June 30, 2015, 04:17:56 AM
Americans tend to equate hatchbacks with cheap car. We do buy them, just rarely outside of B and C-segment models from mainstream brands. The previous A3 hatch was largely unsellable in the US outside of coastal cities, which is why we now get it as a compact sedan. Same reason BMW only gives us the 2-series and Mercedes only gives us the CLA and GLA. Buyers of German luxury brands are usually seeking status, and a cheapie hatch just doesn't bring that.

Well this really makes sense

Quote from: Anaxilus on June 30, 2015, 04:23:40 AM
We like hatchbacks here. We just have a different name for them.
 
One could say American style hatchbacks are the number one selling type of vehicle in the US.
 

LOL, that big foot shows that I watched on some movies should be relly fun in real life.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1398 on: June 30, 2015, 09:57:54 PM »
I think hatchbacks are more popular than ever, small cars in general are more popular than ever.

Regarding the VW Golf mention above, you can't really compare the Golf with most 'comparable' hatchbacks. They start $4000+ higher than the 'competition'. Don't get me wrong, they are much better appointed, much better engineered, and have many more features than the others, but most people look at the size of the vehicle first, and don't look any deeper if they know the price difference.

The nicer hatch and luxury hatch market here is surely very small, but I think most hatches in the up-to-25k range do alright. Even enthusiast hatches like the Fiesta ST is mostly sold out and that's a car that only comes as a manual transmission and starts around $22k.

Btw, technically all the prius cars are hatches and those sell like hotcakes.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1399 on: June 30, 2015, 11:57:47 PM »
the Focus RS is looking mighty tempting.

I might jsut hold off on going from a lease on the GT86 to an outright purchase till I try one and see what the price is
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