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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1360 on: June 05, 2015, 07:28:27 PM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on June 05, 2015, 06:19:37 AM
Not really. Look closer. There's less nuance to some of the newer models. I think that new R8 looks god awful tbh. I suppose if one would prefer a lego version of a swimsuit model over the real thing I would understand. I mean, WTH is this? The new Hyundai?

It depends which one. Some of them like the S3 look like barely warmed over versions of the old car. Others like the new TT I agree have gotten ugly and more simplistic. The TT I think is definitely less successful than the R8 "redesign." My guess is that they will take the outgoing A4, widen the grill, and give it more pinched, more aggressive looking headlights, and that's the end of it. The A5/A5 Sportback they're probably going to screw up, which is too bad as those are the best looking cars they've got.



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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1361 on: June 05, 2015, 07:44:48 PM »
The above being said, I don't think BMW is doing any better, although I suppose the shrunken X5 design of the new X1 is an improvement over the first one. The styling of the latest Benz models are I think the best out of the three of them, but that isn't saying a whole lot. NONE of the current luxury designs are particularly successful in my book. The new Jag XE and XF both suck, Lexus models have gotten absolutely hideous, Acuras are bland, Cadillac hasn't had a new styling idea in ages, Lincoln copied the Kia K900 with tracing paper for their Continental concept, and Infinitis are still mostly blobs. Even the Maserati Ghibli is lumpy and messy. The new RR Sport looks good, but other than that...








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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1362 on: June 05, 2015, 08:51:48 PM »
Wow, that new bimmer looks like it ran into the bottom half of a Chevy.

I actually like the new ATS V+ except for the rear lights. Surprisingly the Merc CLA I saw the other day is startig to look dated to me. Especially from the rear.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1363 on: June 05, 2015, 11:05:42 PM »
This is why I could never drive the ATS. Behold the worst gauge cluster in the industry. What's worse, Cadillac knows that everybody hates the ATS gauges, which are also used in lower trims of the CTS. The Buick Regal GS got its own dedicated gauge cluster, so you might think that the more expensive Cadillac ATS-V would get one too. Nope, same horrible gauges, just with red hash marks and needles. GOOD JOB TEAM.

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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1364 on: June 05, 2015, 11:54:16 PM »
Yeah, Cadillac has work to do. I think they are headed in the right direction under Johan de Nysschen who wants to re-establish the brand as a benchmark. He did well for Audi and finally got Infiniti interiors to match up to a 10 year old Lexus finally. Would be smart if they started rolling out new tech dev under the Cadillac name plate rather than GM.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1365 on: June 06, 2015, 05:10:50 PM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on June 05, 2015, 11:54:16 PM
Yeah, Cadillac has work to do. I think they are headed in the right direction under Johan de Nysschen who wants to re-establish the brand as a benchmark. He did well for Audi and finally got Infiniti interiors to match up to a 10 year old Lexus finally. Would be smart if they started rolling out new tech dev under the Cadillac name plate rather than GM.

We'll see. A lot of folks on auto forums are definitely NOT fans of JdN. The other thing he did at Infiniti was to toss 10 years of brand equity built around the G nameplate straight in the trash, to copy the Audi naming scheme. Audi's switch to letter/number worked at the time because 80/100/5000/V8 were all meaningless. I can't remember if the original Audi Cabriolet even had a name. Infiniti's switch on the other hand has been a disaster. I still can't remember whether the QX60 is the FX and the QX70 is the JX, or if it's the other way around.

Then you have the total CF of the Q40 being the old G, the Q50 being the new G, and the Q60 being the old G coupe. I get that it will eventually work itself out, but it's still a big mess, and IMO an unnecessary mess. And now the same thing will happen at Cadillac, with CT(X) taking over for all of the existing names. I'm not sure that idea is any better.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1366 on: June 12, 2015, 02:04:49 AM »
Another FAIL for automated driving systems:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/honda-recalls-acura-mdx-rlx-over-automatic-braking-glitch-88764.html

"The company first received a report of problems when a vehicle in Japan was involved in an accident after its emergency braking system improperly engaged, causing a rear-end collision.

The problem was traced to a deficiency in the software logic, which misinterprets certain roadside objects, such as metal fences and guardrails, as obstacles that warrant automatic application of the brakes."
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1367 on: June 12, 2015, 04:01:40 PM »
Speaking of TTs, anyone here follow the real TT - as in Isle of Man TT - this past week? I know this is mainly a car place, but that was bloody epic, even if all I got were highlights. Made almost everything else I've seen this year (MotoGP, WEC, WRC, that joke os a series they call F1) seem downright dull.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1368 on: June 15, 2015, 07:26:22 PM »
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1369 on: June 15, 2015, 09:45:25 PM »
Quote from: Anaxilus on June 15, 2015, 07:26:22 PM

Horrific performance by Nissan btw:


Toyota has been able to at least put some scare into the folks at Audi, even if they were ultimately unsuccessful. Nissan, not so much. I'm still not sure why anyone thinks a FE/FWD race car is a good idea.

The 919s though were on game.



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