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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1270 on: October 02, 2014, 03:14:07 PM »

I would buy a car that gets better dependability ratings than a Chrysler.  Just my .02
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1271 on: October 07, 2014, 10:40:19 PM »

K, I've made it clear before I'm not too much a fan of the new C7.  That being said, I saw the new Z06 + Z07 package at the auto show.  Just gorgeous!  Absolutely gorgeous.  Star of the show.  For the money, anyone getting a Z28 instead of the Z06 is just nuts or has a hard on for lead sleds.  I might have to get one when the C7 get's discontinued and if they don't follow through on a mid-engined Vette/ZR1.  I'd say compared to the Z06, the future NSX already looks extremely dated and mundane.  Jason, you have my consent to pick up a Z06.   :)p1

A couple other observations...

The Porsche Macan is thee SUV to get.  Next best star of the show after the Z06 for me.  I was surprised to note after they shrunk the 911 down, it's actually pretty much the same exact size as the Cayman/Boxster.  Good thing for the 911, bad thing for the Cayman I'd say.

Another reason to reconsider a Camaro?  The new Challenger R/T Superbee 6.4L Hemi.  The revised interior courtesy of Fiat is a very nice improvement.  Gone are the 5 year old truck interiors from the Dodge Ram.  I could actually drive comfortably in the new interior.  If you aren't going to get a Z28 or ZL1, I'd be all over the Challenger for a Muscle car.  Hellcat is pretty cool too but that's Z28 money.

New Dodge Ram Laramie Longhorn is super sweet inside.  Very nice touches and quality materials if you like the aesthetic.

The Toyota FCX is a bigger car than it looks in pictures  We are talking bigger than an Avalon.  Seems a bit less overstyled in person but the dark blue paint hides a lot too.

New Impreza WRX facelift is much uglier in person than the pictures show.  I thought it was passable in photos.  It is pretty bad...

ATS looks better in person.  Interior could use a bit more polish and it feels bulky.  The black plastic capacitive console is just too Ford/Lincolnish.  Didn't like how the new big modern Caddy logos use really cheap materials which are now more obvious as they are magnified by size.

Audi S3 interior is utter cheap VW.  Didn't last more than 20 secs.  No likey.  S6/S7/8 are much better.

I liked the E-class interior and cockpit.  I liked how the MB E cockpit felt more airy and open with better visibility than the Audis or Caddies.  The back seat is still a bit too stiff for my liking per the usual Teutonic MB masochism.  S-class wasn't even there.  S-coupe was there and quite pretty.  Interior was mixed bag for my tastes due to the massive dash screens.









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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1272 on: October 07, 2014, 11:14:36 PM »

Audi S3 interior is utter cheap VW.  Didn't last more than 20 secs.  No likey.  S6/S7/8 are much better.

I liked the E-class interior and cockpit.  I liked how the MB E cockpit felt more airy and open with better visibility than the Audis or Caddies.  The back seat is still a bit too stiff for my liking per the usual Teutonic MB masochism.  S-class wasn't even there.  S-coupe was there and quite pretty.  Interior was mixed bag for my tastes due to the massive dash screens.

Agreed on the A3/S3 interior. It's a black cave with some tiny silver strips that don't work. Classic Audi blank button-itis everywhere. You get a nice Audi steering wheel and nice gauges, but the rest of it is less interesting to look at than the new Golf, and in the VW the blank buttons are at least around the shifter where they are less blatantly obvious and don't scream "look at all the features you don't have!"

The E has held up well against its newer 5 and A6 competition, but at the same time compared to the gorgeous new C-class, it's starting to look dated. I'm very curious to see how the next one and its CLS cousin turn out. The C just blows everybody else out of the water in terms of design and materials. If they can repeat that with the next E, it will be something to behold.

I'm not a fan at all of CUE or the touch panel center stacks, but the unforgivable sin in the ATS is the gauge cluster. It looks pulled straight from a '90s era GM dustbuster minivan, and simply has no place in a Buick, let alone a Cadillac. Epic fail.


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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1273 on: October 07, 2014, 11:38:03 PM »

New C Class is very nice but the touchpad thing is ridiculous.  It's basically a giant black bezel with a tiny screen.

GM's most upscale interior atm is probably the Corvette.  Which is bad news for Cadillac.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1274 on: October 07, 2014, 11:50:57 PM »

New Impreza WRX facelift is much uglier in person than the pictures show.  I thought it was passable in photos.  It is pretty bad...
I totally agree, I have the hatchback model prior to this one and enjoy it.  I saw a Macon yesterday and it's not bad looking, it's growing on me.  I also like that new Lincoln MKC but have yet to see it in person.   The ATS is cool looking too!
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1275 on: October 08, 2014, 11:15:09 PM »

Sooo....next Supra using BMW i8 CF chassis.  Some interesting comparative pics sharing the platform with BMW.  Note the identical roofline and windows.





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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1276 on: October 09, 2014, 12:38:13 AM »

So, I guess the Supra is no longer a sporty car at the price that will have to command, but reaching into exotic territory.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1277 on: October 09, 2014, 12:42:10 AM »

So, I guess the Supra is no longer a sporty car at the price that will have to command, but reaching into exotic territory.

They said $65K was the target.  FRS is the affordable sporty car.  The Bimmer is a Z4/Z5 replacement so not exotic.

BMW already uses a carbon composite in the i3 chassis.  I've seen it, it's not truly CF in the strict sense so that's why it's cheaper.

Lexus is working a new flagship to replace the LFA.  They said they will release a new flagship exotic sports car for every generation.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1278 on: October 09, 2014, 12:57:51 AM »

Carbon composite makes a big difference. I was expecting a barely 6 figure price tag. Still, $65k for a Supra... I equate a Supra with a more polished Mustang/Camaro, which can certainly reach and surpass $65k with special sauce added, that starts for half that.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1279 on: October 09, 2014, 01:06:45 AM »

Carbon composite makes a big difference. I was expecting a barely 6 figure price tag. Still, $65k for a Supra... I equate a Supra with a more polished Mustang/Camaro, which can certainly reach and surpass $65k with special sauce added, that starts for half that.

No, they've never really been comparable.  More of a step closer to or at Corvette rather than Camaro. The old Supra was a $40K car 15 years ago.
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