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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1230 on: June 13, 2014, 05:33:57 AM »

Came across a 2013 Chevy Spark top trim with everything ($17.5 new) and only 11k miles for $12.4 at a dealer down the street. Went in next day and it was already gone. Not all that interested in a normal priced Spark, but with all the bells for less than base model I wanted to give it a look. Most people are getting over EPA estimates so I was interested. Kind of a penalty box, but the reviews were good despite the entry price bracket.

New 2013 Prius Cs have $2k on the hood making a model 3 (lowest model I'd be interested) around $18k. I'd seen one in person last year, but at that time I was well into the 'has to have full size rear seat' mindset. With the recent interest in the first gen Insight I decided I was ok with a squeeze in the back (yes I know Insight was a 2 seater) so I might give the C another look while there is old inventory rotting. Logically this is the exact car I SHOULD get as my driving is perfectly suited to it's strengths, but it's still an appliance, mostly hard plastic interior and all. Give me a Prius C with trim and handling of a Golf for $20-22k and I'm good to go.

Still in wait mode for Golf information. GTI is out and some people have them. Globally the MKVII has had some odd problems including wipers that are awful, cracks in the paint all the way to the metal leading to rust, and the over-eager emergency stop system when large vehicles are in adjacent lanes which could ironically CAUSE an accident by your car slamming on the brakes and the person behind you rear-ending you. This is defeatable, but shouldn't have to be... it is a feature, you know, something that sells the car!

I feel bad any time I get the 'ahh fuck it' notion and start searching the first FR-S or similar car that comes to mind, knowing I'm not a race car driver, and my average speed is about 20mph since beyond 3 trips a year, 95% of my driving is city where the gas burning during lights and lost braking energy just feels wasteful. The Golf is supposed to be a compromise assuming the mileage is up to par. I think people are expecting around 28-30 city and 35-38 highway. Something a bit more on the 'fun' side than economical, but with the stop/start system helps minimize waste.

Kia's EV Soul started production recently and is expected to hit near 100 miles of range, but like the Spark EV (85 miles), will only be available in California and Oregon then other CARB states, and probably never Oklahoma. 100 miles would be enough for me, I think. 80-85 from the Leaf and Spark is cutting it just a bit too close if I have any surprise trips across town. The EV Soul is expected to be around $40k before tax credits anyway, so it's out by price already. Looking forward to seeing what happens with the new Tesla soccer-mom-mobile and if the quality of the Model S carries through to the X (and logically to the next one - the one I will be interested in). Tesla just opened up all of their patents to open source today, so that is interesting.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1231 on: June 13, 2014, 11:53:36 AM »

Still in wait mode for Golf information. GTI is out and some people have them. Globally the MKVII has had some odd problems including wipers that are awful, cracks in the paint all the way to the metal leading to rust, and the over-eager emergency stop system when large vehicles are in adjacent lanes which could ironically CAUSE an accident by your car slamming on the brakes and the person behind you rear-ending you. This is defeatable, but shouldn't have to be... it is a feature, you know, something that sells the car!

I feel bad any time I get the 'ahh fvck it' notion and start searching the first FR-S or similar car that comes to mind, knowing I'm not a race car driver, and my average speed is about 20mph since beyond 3 trips a year, 95% of my driving is city where the gas burning during lights and lost braking energy just feels wasteful. The Golf is supposed to be a compromise assuming the mileage is up to par. I think people are expecting around 28-30 city and 35-38 highway. Something a bit more on the 'fun' side than economical, but with the stop/start system helps minimize waste.

The MK7 does seem quite nice for its class. Some of the UK publications have tested it against the A3 and and M-B A-class which are priced pretty similarly when the latter two are equipped with tiny EU market engines, and it's done pretty well for itself, which likely wouldn't be the case for our Elantra GT or Forte 5-door. The Focus is also getting a bit of an update for 2015, but it's mostly a reskin and an updated interior. The powertrain, including that terrible transmission are the same as before.

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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1232 on: June 13, 2014, 12:56:41 PM »

I got up close and personal with an i8 today, but couldn't pull off a test drive. 

I like the looks!  It's smaller, in a good way, than I expected.  The blue accents still look look out of place to me, but in general the car has a cool look and feels like it means business.  0-100 in something like 4.4 seconds, let me try some of that.


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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1233 on: June 13, 2014, 02:29:31 PM »

I got up close and personal with an i8 today, but couldn't pull off a test drive. 

I like the looks!  It's smaller, in a good way, than I expected.  The blue accents still look look out of place to me, but in general the car has a cool look and feels like it means business.  0-100 in something like 4.4 seconds, let me try some of that.




The i8 looks way better in person and in the right color scheme when I saw it in Vegas.  Sadly, the price/performance makes no sense to me.  Played around with the i3 too.  The interior looked to be fully compostable.  Not sure that's what you want in a car, lol.  The only thing of interest to me was the carbon chassis at that price point which I'm hoping proliferates around the industry.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1234 on: June 13, 2014, 10:21:58 PM »

everyone knows smart cars are the coolest things ever. i feel hood every time i ride one of those beasts.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1235 on: June 14, 2014, 05:28:38 AM »

i need to get rid of my POS car.  it's a target for cops in my area of town.  i just got pulled over a block from my house over after a 12hrs shift and effin' tired.  between my wife and i, we've been pulled over four times for petty crap in the last three years since moving in.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1236 on: June 14, 2014, 06:48:40 AM »

i need to get rid of my POS car.  it's a target for cops in my area of town.  i just got pulled over a block from my house over after a 12hrs shift and effin' tired.  between my wife and i, we've been pulled over four times for petty crap in the last three years since moving in.

What are you driving atm and where?

Btw, is that Jurgen Prochnow from Das Boot?
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1237 on: June 14, 2014, 04:51:51 PM »

Ja, Jurgen!

i don't put much value in an auto other than to get me from point A to point B.  i drive a rusty '99 Civic with Yakima racks and a faded gay pride sticker.  it's paid for, reliable, and can carry my canoe.  i make sure the car is always in the garage and my lawn is free from dandelions.  Maple Grove is a bastion of all things suburbia, good and bad.     

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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1238 on: June 14, 2014, 04:59:40 PM »

Das Boot is my all time favorite movie, and the '99 civic is an absolute classic of a car!!   headbang
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1239 on: June 28, 2014, 12:41:11 PM »



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