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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1040 on: August 12, 2013, 10:39:33 PM »

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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1041 on: August 13, 2013, 04:11:11 AM »

Happened to go to 86Fest this weekend at Fontana Speedway.  Ran into the guy that designed the clover/convoluted rotors twenty years ago.  Ironic since we were just talking about them a few days ago.  Found some pics of the original deal designed in 1993.



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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1042 on: August 13, 2013, 04:32:16 AM »

First true modern Supercar was not the F40, it was the Porsche 959.  That car revolutionized all modern cars on the road today.

Evo - "We need more cars that are lightweight and keep the driver at the center of involvement."  Thought you didn't believe in that mantra Dave?   :P
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1043 on: August 13, 2013, 04:59:25 AM »

Happened to go to 86Fest this weekend at Fontana Speedway.  Ran into the guy that designed the clover/convoluted rotors twenty years ago.  Ironic since we were just talking about them a few days ago.  Found some pics of the original deal designed in 1993.



Haha! Certainly wouldn't pay a premium for something that looks like that, especially on a track.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1044 on: August 13, 2013, 08:03:51 AM »

First true modern Supercar was not the F40, it was the Porsche 959.  That car revolutionized all modern cars on the road today.

Evo - "We need more cars that are lightweight and keep the driver at the center of involvement."  Thought you didn't believe in that mantra Dave?   :P

Agreed. The F40 wasn't modern at all, it was quite the opposite. Porsche broke all kinds of new ground with the 959. I was surprised to see the F50 in the test, apparently EVO has a thing for it. Most journos hate it. It's also too bad there wasn't an XJ220 there, especially considering EVO is a British mag. That car IMO is much more deserving of "analog supercar" than the Murcielago. The XJ will also outrun the Carrera GT which is kind of hilarious.

I didn't say anybody should stop making lightweight, driver focused cars. All of those monsters are wealth flaunting machines in addition to being driver focused performance cars though, and that does sacrifice some of the driver involvement and some of the performance. The 1500lb Radical SR8 for example will murder all of them on any race track for the price of an Audi R8. I wouldn't want to drive one to the super market, though.

I'm waiting to see what Mercedes does with the next E, which I think is going to be a really impressive car. They've been on a bit of a roll lately, and transformed the kind of bland and boring W212 into a really nice car, and that's only with a mid-life refresh. Unlike BMW and Audi, Mercedes is in a bit of trouble and I think the pressure is really pushing them to make great cars as opposed to BMW who's gotten a bit fat and a bit lazy.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1045 on: August 13, 2013, 09:08:11 AM »

I always put wave rotors on my race bikes.  Lighter, reduced rotating mass, and they are great throwing off the heat. 

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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1046 on: August 14, 2013, 05:08:24 AM »

This vid makes me proud to be an American.  Yeehaw!!
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1047 on: August 14, 2013, 05:34:26 AM »

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/eibach-pro-kit-springs

Not a bad price for some springs, especially if 15 people commit to buy.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1048 on: August 14, 2013, 04:41:40 PM »

Found info on the new Stang's weight and dimensions:  http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2015-ford-mustang-goes-on-a-diet.html

So after the diet, looks like the new Stang will be 300-400lbs lighter (31/3200lbs down from 3500) and around 2 inches longer and 2 inches more narrow than the FRS.  Great news for Ford.  A 550hp 28/2900lbs Mustang does sound pretty attractive.  If it doesn't catch on fire.

Edit - Oh gawd, just went on to some Mustang forums to check out their estimated drop in weight and all they want to do is drag race.  I don't know if I'm Mustang owner material....
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1049 on: August 14, 2013, 07:15:20 PM »

 :)p13  Yep, I'm not saying they don't turn well, because a lot of guy spend a lot of time making them go around the bends really well... but straight lines is what they do!

I guess that's why 'stang brakes SUCKED for so many years!

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