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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1020 on: August 02, 2013, 04:42:08 AM »

Or Enkei RPF1. Always a classic with WRB, especially in white
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1021 on: August 05, 2013, 04:54:16 AM »

Fan shot footage from the end of tonight's Top Gear. The episode itself was beyond mediocre, but there is some serious iron at the end, including a land speed record car. They should've spent a lot more time with these cars rather than showing you 15 minutes of James driving a fucking city bus.

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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1022 on: August 05, 2013, 06:13:59 AM »

Might want to hold off on the FR-S there Mike... http://jalopnik.com/the-subaru-brz-sti-just-leaked-1024198473
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1023 on: August 05, 2013, 06:37:31 AM »

Fan shot footage from the end of tonight's Top Gear. The episode itself was beyond mediocre, but there is some serious iron at the end, including a land speed record car. They should've spent a lot more time with these cars rather than showing you 15 minutes of James driving a fucking city bus.



I thought tonight's episode was great. James driving a bus was quite... Different, but when Jezza drove the xxxxxx (trying to avoid spoilers for others), I was surprised he didn't test the one with the larger figures. I liked Richard's segment as well because I always love some off-roading action (a bit of a spoiler).

The ending was phenomenal IMO. It felt a little rushed and like you said, if they spent a little more time (actually quite a lot more time) with a few striking cars (McLaren P1 omggggg) it would have been a LEGENDARY episode.

Nevertheless, 8/10 for me.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1024 on: August 05, 2013, 09:59:55 AM »

Spoiler warning:

Richard's review was much better than the boring/awkward Evoque review, but do they need to do literally every single car RR makes, every time they come out with a new one? I get it, they're really nice inside and they're really capable off road. They also break pretty much instantly, which is something TG used to mention but no longer does. TG USA's LR had a broken air suspension and rain water coming through the dome light.

Jeremy's review was fine, if basically the exact same thing as the XK8 review from several years back. A lot of driving footage and very little substance, and no power lap. The XKR and the R8 were both done far better.

The ending was fine, but the 50th Anniversary E-type film was WAY better done. Even the Saab homage was a lot more interesting. To me this episode just felt like a total rush job, which is a shame as otherwise (with the exception of the god awful hover van) this was a fantastic series.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1025 on: August 05, 2013, 05:57:37 PM »

Might want to hold off on the FR-S there Mike... http://jalopnik.com/the-subaru-brz-sti-just-leaked-1024198473


Nah, it's just a BRZ w/ rebadged TRD swag for the STI guys.  No biggie, they're just late to the party.  I'm really over the BRZ, used to like the halo LEDs but got tired of the boomerang look.  Nose is ugly, though shorter which is nice.  Hate their spoiler, don't need heated seats and prefer the monotone look of the FRS cloth seats which are probably the best cloth seats I've ever been in.  The 10 series gets the GT86 HIDs/LED DRLs, dual zone climate, push button start and smart key, the only stuff I wanted from the BRZ anyway.


I am curious about the STI exhaust on the concept though, wonder if the midpipe is 2.25" like the TRD or >=2.5".
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1026 on: August 05, 2013, 06:19:09 PM »

Hmm, it is rumoured to have the Forester XT's engine with a few tweaks allowing the engine to fit in the RWD platform.

Until I actually see it, I'll keep dreaming like a little boy. But for some reason, I have a feeling that you may be right
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1027 on: August 06, 2013, 09:23:26 PM »

Spoiler warning:

Richard's review was much better than the boring/awkward Evoque review, but do they need to do literally every single car RR makes, every time they come out with a new one?

Of course they do. Their job is to promote british cars (even if they aren't british anymore) and bash everybody else. That's what they've been doing for years. Theirs is one of the most obvious agendas in the auto journalism industry, and considering the other lucky contestants, that's really saying something. They're not even remotely fair or factual, and you shouldn't trust anything they say or take them as anything besides silly entertainment with a fair dollop of nationalism, racism and xenophobia thrown in for good measure. Their popularity is the only thing that lets them get away with it, and let's face it, more people like them just the way they are.

I liked this season, and thought the Hovervan was hilarious. The only episode I thought was bland was the first one.

Re: the BRZ STI. I've seen so many wild rumors flying everywhere (turbo, KERS, NA, etc) and honestly, I really don't think the suits will want internal competition in the model range, so we're unlikely to see a stock BRZ with more power. Plus, turboing it out, or putting in a bunch of fancy aero or suspension upgrades, will most likely drive the price up quite a bit higher where it will have to compete with more serious performance machines that make much bigger numbers, and selling the BRZ at that pricepoint - regardless of its virtues - is going to be a much tougher task. Already the usual reaction among the uneducated is "why don't you buy a V6 mustang instead," and it will only be worse at $30k+. Lots of people buy with their lizard brain, and a lightweight sports car is a fairly niche thing.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1028 on: August 06, 2013, 10:11:36 PM »

I dunno, seems like adding 50-60hp/lb-ft and dropping 0-200lbs while charging close to $35k-$40k is not unheard of.  Every Toyota and Subaru has and had multiple performance versions.  If they cannibalize themselves in favor of larger profit margins w/ pricier premium models and also gain more conquests, makes total financial sense to me.  You don't need to look further than the crowd that bought a Celica GT versus a GTS or All Trac variant.  GS versus Type R crowd, etc.

I will say the 2015 Mustang has my attention.  I've been trying to find weights on the potential new model w/ nothing coming up.  Just hints that is will be quite smaller and should be lighter.  If they get it between 3000-3100lbs, that will be a beast w/ the new IRS especially if a tuner can drop another couple hundred pounds off it.  I still want an American muscle car someday but nothing appeals to me.  Really wanted a new Cuda (maybe cram a V10 in it), but that's looking about a decade away if ever, plus Dodge crap build.  Thought about a GT40 kit car or building up a original Stingray.  Future face-lifted Viper?  Those will probably do the trick.

GT40 is my favorite American car, can't do better than telling Ferrari to go f**k himself and then smashing his face in on the track by going 1-2-3.  Plus the low 40inch height/profile w/ that American Iron V8 behind your head roaring all pissed off and such!!  Yum! 
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #1029 on: August 07, 2013, 04:19:54 AM »

The GT40 was awesome. The tribute band version from a few years back was definitely less awesome. My favorite American car is the last of the Pierce Arrow Silver Arrows. As beautiful as the prettiest cars from France and Italy from the period, and the craftsmanship was astonishing. The only thing comparable was Duesenberg and RR, and their cars were no where near as good looking. Number 2: Cord 812 supercharged roadster. I also have a real soft spot for the MKII Continental. I don't think anything made today compares. The big Bentley and RR just look like mega versions of the 7 series and VW Passat.



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