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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #920 on: May 21, 2013, 07:16:54 AM »

@ Mike

Ha, yes it all happened and was over before I even decided to go shopping. My part of town was relatively untouched, just a little pea-size hail is all. The movie theater that got damaged you might see in pictures/video was the one I went to see the new Star Trek just yesterday. The intersection just up the street where the medical building and every building there got destroyed, I drove through leaving the theater to get on I-35. I live on the far west-north part of town (Bethany) where we almost never get tornadoes. Not sure why, but they always go through South Oklahoma City - Moore area or North Oklahoma City - Edmond area, but never through the core of the city.

It might sound odd, but I feel rather safe living here and I would choose tornadoes over wild fires, earthquakes, tsunamis and hurricanes ANY day. Tornadoes are surgical storms and the chances of you being affected by one are exceptionally small. One of my friends lives less than a mile from the tornado devastation path and his house has zero damage, he even has full utility service. That's how surgical they are. Other natural disasters are grander in scope and occur with almost the same frequency as tornado season anyway. How many hurricanes are there per year that do damage? If you live in Florida you are guaranteed to be affected by a hurricane at some point. California, earthquake same story. I've lived in OKC for 31 years now and I've only had to take shelter from a possible tornado hit once and it ended up being miles away and my parents were being over cautious (rightly so) and got us in our underground storm shelter.

Getting back to the car, I'm not sure what I want to do with the Prius situation. The 2013 is the last of this generation with the 2014 being all new and supposedly much better. If the concept is anywhere near the production, sign me up for a 4th gen Prius. Thinking back on my inspection and test drive tonight, there are just too many little things I don't like enough about the current 3rd gen Prius. There is the bridged console that I loathe, the ancient appearing HVAC LCD screen, the dated touch panel and overly busy main display (speedo/etc). The exterior looks 'good enough' but isn't quite what I had hoped to end up with. I wanted something interesting and different from what I had, and it is, but it isn't quite what I had in mind. The concept 2014 Prius is startlingly good. Gimme!







and the interior which will probably look NOTHING like this:



So running the numbers, the only car that I can buy and get enough gas mileage to almost negate gas cost enough to where I'm almost paying for just the car (as I would have the Leaf) is the Prius, especially if the 60mpg combined EPA guess is right for the 4th gen. A 2013 Prius II (base trim) still has smart key and push button start and some niceties so it's not completely stripped. If the 4th gen keeps similar pricing a 2014 Prius II would run me about $2800 per year (including everything but insurance) if I kept it for 10 years. At that point the car is worth about $8000-10000 meaning my true cost if I were to sell it then would be about $1800-2000 per year. Sounds pretty good to me.

I don't really want to pay taxes on a 2013 only to buy a 2014 sometime next year (supposed to be delayed a bit) and have to pay another $900 in TTL. Looking like the Pontiac will have to do for 1 more year. Joy... :-\
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #921 on: May 21, 2013, 10:12:21 AM »

Can we add a poll to this thread to take bets on whether Max will buy a car in 2013?  Odds are currently 237:1 that he won't.  ;)

We are now at 230:1... any takers?   :P

224:1 today.  Odds makers are expecting a swing in the opposite direction soon! 
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #922 on: May 21, 2013, 06:20:56 PM »

Also, the fact that they had to resort to playing "V8 noises" through the speakers is just fucking pathetic.


Tell me that's defeatable by the dealer.....
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #923 on: May 21, 2013, 11:56:34 PM »

Also, the fact that they had to resort to playing "V8 noises" through the speakers is just fucking pathetic.


Tell me that's defeatable by the dealer.....

It's not that easy. Supposedly there's a way to do it without disabling the entire audio system, which is what happens why people tried to get rid of it initially by pulling fuses.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=672496
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #924 on: May 22, 2013, 01:14:34 AM »

Lol, pulling fuses?!  Dealer should be able to disable it by sending a code into whichever of the 50 ECUs they are using or just switching it off.  I'm tempted to go on the forum and tell them to check their distributor cap.  :&
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #925 on: May 22, 2013, 08:00:01 AM »

I thought you guys were kidding.  That is the most silly thing I think I've ever seen! 
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #926 on: May 22, 2013, 10:43:31 AM »

Pretty wild story here. Guy does a European Delivery of an Individual BMW M3 (custom paint custom interior). He shows up for delivery and out rolls his car, in a completely different color paint. Factory screw up, paperwork all shows correct. The big problem is that this M3 is at end of life and the factories are scheduled for retooling before a new interior can be made (so that the car is completely assembled on the factory line). BMW first offers to respray the car (LOL!!!) which he declines, as he should, then they offer to build him a new car with the right paint, but since the interior is custom and takes 8 weeks lead time and the factory is shutting down for retooling in 6 weeks they want to pull the interior from the current wrongly painted car and have it installed by dealer staff, not factory people with the right equipment. This option has some merit to it, but he still should get what he ordered. The best thing going for this guy is that BMW makes people pay for and sign for cars before they even get to see it. They are contractually obligated to build him a car to his specs.

The color that he was given (AKA Camry edition):



The color it should have been:





Oh and the interior looks something like this (photoshopped E90), but matching the paint on the last 2 shots:



So we have baby blue exterior with near teal blue leather seats. Yikes...

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?6045039-Some-guy-orders-an-Indvidual-M3-for-Euro-delivery-and-BMW-paints-it-the-wrong-color

Remind me to never custom order a car from BMW.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #927 on: May 22, 2013, 03:58:37 PM »

I've got another semi-related semi-BMW incident for you:

http://jalopnik.com/mini-delivers-car-thats-missing-parts-sends-best-apol-500006527


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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #928 on: May 22, 2013, 06:31:48 PM »

Remind me to never custom order a car from BMW.

Or maybe don't take four years to figure out your most awesomest color combo evars and then finally order your E92 when they are literally shutting down the whole line.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #929 on: May 22, 2013, 09:54:14 PM »

If you read the thread you will find it took him that long because BMW took forever each time he submitted a color choice for approval. He did change his mind on color but it was from a completely custom (from scratch) color to a standard BMW color which would obviously be approved. BMW was the cause of the 4 year delay not him.
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