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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #910 on: May 20, 2013, 08:11:12 PM »

Bridgestones are great, but like you said, they are awfully heavy and you seriously feel it on the road. The moment you let go off the accelerator, you can actually feel the car decelerate unusually more than expected... That was the MAIN reason why I got a return on the Bridgestone and went Conti. I would've bought the DW, but it snows up here and the law is if the temperature goes below 7 degrees celsius and you have summer tires and get into an accident, you are mostly liable for the accident due to the choice of tire compound in winter. Also, I don't really want to buy two separate tires on this car. That's for my next car!
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #911 on: May 20, 2013, 08:21:01 PM »

For tires, I went a Conti extremecontact DWS as I wanted a pretty good A/S tire in the snow and it's a pretty low-rolling tire and it lasts decently long. Grips like hell as well

Decent tire. My girlfriend used to have them, now she uses BF Goodrich something or other. They are definitely not as good in the dry as the best UHP A/S, but they are excellent wet/snow tires. I opted for Pirelli P-Zero Nero A/S last time, as I preferred the dry handling, lower noise, and better ride than the Continental. Before the Pirelli I had the Bridgestone RE960 which was really nice, but in the snow it might as well've been a slick. I'm also not much of a fan of the Pilot Sport A/S, overpriced and noisy, with no real benefit.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #912 on: May 20, 2013, 08:36:06 PM »

The new S-Class is simply atrocious.  The C/CLA/E are all improved looking.  The S has gone straight backwards.  Now I know why they published those interior pics in the dark.  Holy mother of Dodge Ram swathed in leather.  Looks like driving a bus.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/photos/seven-interesting-facts-about-the-2014-mercedes-benz-s-class-picture-21.html

I hate Pirelli even more than Michelin.  My first performance tire upgrade that resulted in my only total-loss due to exceeding available traction.  They've been begging Bridgestone for the past three years to help them design a proper F1 tire, producing what has to be the worst rubber ever put on a Formula One car.  They are so out of their depth. 

No thanks, I'll stick to the Conti DWs:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #913 on: May 20, 2013, 08:49:42 PM »

Dat Navi screen size...

Wow, the Pilot SS tire is rated damn high... I remember a few supercars coming standard with them (I know a lot, but I can't name one on top of my head). I believe it's also an expensive tire the last time I checked.

I had the 960AS Pole Position before getting the Conti. It lasted for a few days and I immediately returned them as it felt like a fricken summertire in the snow, even with my AWD. I didn't get to rate it in the dry/warm, but since I go to school on a mountain, I needed snow plowing capabilities.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #914 on: May 20, 2013, 09:27:48 PM »

Michelin makes amazingly innovative tires w/ high performance thresholds.  Expensive though and maybe questionable performance over time w/ their compounds.  I avoid them because they intentionally and consistently put race car driver lives at risk to get a competitive edge.  That's an unacceptable threshold to cross for my tastes.  I think it is the wrong type of corporate philosophy putting winning over safety.  Bridgestone never went that far and played within the limits of tire design even when they lost a few tenths all for safety.  Then you had the Michelins on the Concorde that blew up, not a direct result but not encouraging either.  I just wouldn't wouldn't trust Michelin w/ my life personally.  Firestone had their issues but that's really a separate red-neck yahoo company run in the states that Bridgestone had the misfortune to acquire at the wrong time.  Firestone used to have one dude at the end of a conveyer belt visually inspect tires for roundness.  Talk about subjective measurements... ::)   Bridgestone uses lasers to ensure proper geometry. 
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #915 on: May 20, 2013, 09:46:49 PM »

Now that you put it that way, it makes sense.

It's almost the same way I avoid Shell gasoline because of their international crimes against Nigeria and other countries.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #916 on: May 21, 2013, 02:16:24 AM »

At a Toyota dealer looking at the Prius and Prius C. The C is too small in the back so it is off the list. The regular is surprisingly good. Not a fan of the giant console, but the rest is ok. Drove it, it's a little slow, but power mode is quick enough to get on the highway confidently. Ride quality is the best yet and it is also the quietest save the leaf. It does have less wind noise than the leaf though. The stock wheels are ugly. The persona series wheels are much nicer, but that model starts too high.

I need to run some numbers but so far so good on the Prius. There is a good lease offer on it right now, making it cost around $3000 per year, but purchase might work too since these hold value so well. I could buy one for $22k and sell it 6 years later for 50% or so with my limited mileage. The residual on the lease is 65% which is not bad but purchase will probably better.

They have a 2012 three model left in a color I like so there is potential for a deal there.
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #917 on: May 21, 2013, 05:11:47 AM »

No thanks, I'll stick to the Conti DWs:http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP

Different category. For UHP A/S, the P-Zero Nero is pretty good. Better ride/steering/noise than the DWS, definitely less noisy than the Pilot Sport A/S Plus. It's on a different planet than the godawful P6 that came stock on a 2004 A6 2.7T. I had high hopes for the RE970AS after seeing how good it is in dry and wet conditions, but sadly it seems that in the snow it's just as bad as the RE960. Too bad.

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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #918 on: May 21, 2013, 05:26:42 AM »

True enough.  I have the fortunate position of not worrying much about 'S' here.  Though I'm more inclined to just have a set or snow rims and tires for the occasion or a dedicated vehicle.  I know most people just want one car that does it all so that's not always possible.

I have to say too, the new BMW M5 is right in my design wheelhouse.  Pretty sharp looking.  Clean and Mean, no nonsense : http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2014-bmw-m5-debuts-with-new-575-hp-competition-package.html



Btw Max, you picked a hell of a day to go for a test drive in Oklahoma!!
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Re: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)
« Reply #919 on: May 21, 2013, 06:52:00 AM »

I have to say too, the new BMW M5 is right in my design wheelhouse.  Pretty sharp looking.  Clean and Mean, no nonsense : http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2014-bmw-m5-debuts-with-new-575-hp-competition-package.html



Btw Max, you picked a hell of a day to go for a test drive in Oklahoma!!

It's definitely a better car than the overwrought E60 M5 with its awful transmission, stupid amount of settings (500hp and 500 "sport" hp are two different settings) and oil sucking nightmare of a V10. On the other hand, with the turbo motor and the more restrained performance, the new M5 has become more AMG-ish.. while ironically the E63 AMG has become more like the RS6. Also, the fact that they had to resort to playing "V8 noises" through the speakers is just fucking pathetic.

The XFR-S is totally doofy looking in comparison, but at least it sounds like something.



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