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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #670 on: March 10, 2013, 04:22:41 PM »
Quote from: omegakitty on March 10, 2013, 03:01:59 PM
IF Porsche didn't have 50 year history of building 911s and the Daihatsu 911 was either a) a new model or b) always made the 911 sure they would be selling fine. If tomorrow all 911s became Daihatsus and they were still charging $90k+ for them their sales would hurt even if they won car of the year at multiple pubs. If they halted down production and created a shortage then you could say they'd be selling out and demand was high. Or if they lowered the price enough that more performance oriented buyers felt they were getting a good value.

There are different Porsche buyers. The PCA people that buy GT3s and race them would probably buy a Daihatsu 911 if the company was called Dr. Ferdinand Diahatsu GmbH and had a long racing heritage and built one of the world's best sports cars. If some new company (or the actual Diahatsu) just built the 911 out of the blue, sales would be a lot lower. See NSX.

The oral surgeons and trophy wives that drive 911 Turbos would likely not buy the exact same car if it was badged as a Kia, and that goes double for the Cayenne.

I don't think there's any kind of "prestige" difference between Scion and Toyota. Both are basically mainstream car brands. The problem I have with making the car a Scion is I feel like it's a defibrillator for an otherwise pathetic brand with cars that are getting their asses kicked by the Koreans. 
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #671 on: March 10, 2013, 05:27:38 PM »
Quote from: DaveBSC on March 10, 2013, 04:22:41 PM
Quote from: omegakitty on March 10, 2013, 03:01:59 PM
IF Porsche didn't have 50 year history of building 911s and the Daihatsu 911 was either a) a new model or b) always made the 911 sure they would be selling fine. If tomorrow all 911s became Daihatsus and they were still charging $90k+ for them their sales would hurt even if they won car of the year at multiple pubs. If they halted down production and created a shortage then you could say they'd be selling out and demand was high. Or if they lowered the price enough that more performance oriented buyers felt they were getting a good value.

There are different Porsche buyers.

I'm aware. I wasn't assuming all 911 buyers are in the latter bimbo category. But it's inevitable a large number of sales do go to them.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #672 on: March 10, 2013, 07:55:40 PM »
Also to add, there's a reason why people want the BRZ over the FRS. Different front end and paint selection (personal preference, but I prefer subaru blue), and the Subaru has the nicer interior compared to Scion's usual cheaping out on equipment and materials.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #673 on: March 12, 2013, 11:41:24 PM »
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #674 on: March 13, 2013, 12:00:55 AM »
^ hahaha I saw it earlier today. Funny yes, poorly executed? Yes. It's a V6 not a V8 as you might hear. Still, very amusing
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #675 on: March 13, 2013, 01:38:58 AM »
Yeah, whole thing was rigged probably.  The odds of having a soda can holder in a floor model?
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #676 on: March 13, 2013, 01:46:07 AM »
Still pretty funny. Jeff Gordon is a good sport.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #677 on: March 13, 2013, 02:19:47 AM »
On a different note, because TG UK is done for the season, I'm waiting for TG USA to come out. Still a pretty good show, I just find it unfair to compare it to TG USA
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #678 on: March 13, 2013, 02:26:12 AM »
F1 starts this weekend, on NBC!!  So even normal left-turn only folk can watch it.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #679 on: March 13, 2013, 03:20:55 AM »
Quote from: planx on March 13, 2013, 02:19:47 AM
On a different note, because TG UK is done for the season, I'm waiting for TG USA to come out. Still a pretty good show, I just find it unfair to compare it to TG USA

The two part Africa special was epic. TGUK has been VERY iffy in the last few seasons, but they really hit it out of the park with that. For some reason everybody ranks the Vietnam special as #1, personally I prefer South America because you know, it actually had cars in it.

The first season of TG US when they tried to copy the UK format with interviews, studio segments, and lap times with their own Stig was pretty bad. It didn't work for TG Australia, and it didn't work for them. Since they've redone the show "3 hosts do stupid stuff in old cars" it's gotten WAY better. The US version of "the guys build their own motor homes" for example far exceeded the pedestrian UK version. You also won't see Clarkson, Hammond, and May putting helmets full of rats on their heads.

The old UK cheap car challenges used to be epic (the B-L one in particular was absolutely phenomenal) but lately I think USA has been doing it better. The one where they all bought 3 series convertibles was just an absolute snooze fest.
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