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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #530 on: December 28, 2012, 08:23:20 PM »

Only 15 cents a mile? What a bargain! I sure wish all the highways around here were private toll roads.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #531 on: December 28, 2012, 09:07:30 PM »

And if they were, would they be 15 cents a mile?  Weird stuff this economies of scale business....

Let's see, city of Los Angeles:
http://cao.lacity.org/budget12-13/2012-13Budget_Summary.pdf

2012-13 allocate $135,000,000 to repair 735 miles of LA's 6,500 mile road network.  Equals $184,000/mile just in repairs only.  Ironically, this is about the same the Germans pay to maintain the autobahn.  Anyone get a sense of Autobahn driving through LA? 
http://www.thelocal.de/national/20120806-44131.html#.UN4Tem_hpU4

Total allocated for road construction and new projects up to $12,000,000,000.  $40,000,000,000 total including mass transit projects in LA.  LA has 4,000,000 people.  So $10,000 spent per person in funding transportation for 2012-2013.  Not including whatever federal and state monies gets flushed down the toilet by the time it's processed through Sacramento.  This happens to be $125,000,000 allocated only for transportation and infrastructure of the total $611,000,000 given to LA by Obama, Reid and Pelosi.  Of which 75% has already been spent w/ 97% already allocated. 

So what part of this strategy really looks better than 15 cents per mile?  Does LA look better to anyone compared to 4 years ago?
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #532 on: December 29, 2012, 01:12:37 AM »

Yes, I'm sure the private highways would be smooth as glass. There's absolutely no way they'd ever cut any corners. Private companies just don't do that. They aren't interested in maximizing profits, it's all about customer satisfaction! Private toll roads are also always super duper successful. Oh wait.

http://www.uspirg.org/reports/usp/private-roads-public-costs
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #533 on: December 29, 2012, 07:03:10 AM »

Yes, I'm sure the public highways would be smooth as glass. There's absolutely no way they'd ever cut any corners. Governments just don't do that. They aren't interested in budgets, it's all about public service! Public roads are also always super duper successful. Oh wait.
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Yes, the 241 is smoother than 5 here.  Refer back to 'competition' and 'market economics' in Econ 101.  However you want to disguise mismanagement and waste, are you sure you want to put government and bureaucracy up as a shining example or alternative??  It seems you and PIRG don't seem to grasp the difference between toll roads that are born from market demand and necessity versus those born from political corruption.  I fail to see how ending privatization reduces political corruption.  Is there some new Fabian Socialist equation I should be aware of?

US PIRG?  So the first thing they do when I visit their website is ask for money?  Lol, their mission statement sure isn't biased at all!  Do its employees wear red capes and fly around rescuing kittens from trees too?  It's nice to have checks and balances but please, they're in bed w/ moveon.org and other radical left nuts.  Just another special interest cult of Mao bent on adding the entire population to it's ranks of foot soldiers.  Here's your 'grass roots': 
http://burnedoutbypirg.wordpress.com/tag/us-pirg/page/2/
PIRG cares (probably not if it was pot):
http://www.thebatt.com/2.8482/smoking-not-r-rated-1.1211634#.UN6Qm2_hpU4

They seem to make biased claims w/ loosely associated, cherry picked data (including Australian market share prices?).  Is that what constitutes a comprehensive study of privatization these days?  That's not a study, that's an editorial piece.  These are studies:
http://www.thebatt.com/2.8482/smoking-not-r-rated-1.1211634#.UN6Qm2_hpU4
https://www.thetollroads.com/assets/objects/207/6_15_06_LeCG_Toll_Road_Study.pdf

So basically where toll roads didn't work out it's because the local or state government messed up at some point along the way (lack of due diligence, regulation enforcement or outright interference).  Where's the DOT indictment of toll roads?  Oh wait, those officials are in bed w/ the private companies to screw us all over.  Which, if believed, proves my point exactly!  So thank you for proving my point about government corruption.  Seems to me that every toll road in continuous operation is an indictment against 'give the state more tax money for infrastructure'.  Therefore, your argument against toll roads is that they are not that much better than public roads, mkay.  So when will PIRG release its study about why our government funded roads suck?


Anyway, the new Corvette looks like shit.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #534 on: December 29, 2012, 08:52:47 AM »

Speaking of toll roads, what's with this FastTrack stuff on the 110 now?  They turned a lane into a toll lane, how's that work?
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #535 on: December 29, 2012, 10:07:29 AM »

Anyway, the new Corvette looks like shit.

Isn't it still just spy shots and renderings at this point?
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #536 on: December 29, 2012, 06:59:13 PM »

Speaking of toll roads, what's with this FastTrack stuff on the 110 now?  They turned a lane into a toll lane, how's that work?


Lol, dude, I have no idea.  Could be a case of Dave's claim of dirty palms being greased under the guise of state needs money, sell state property?  Just a guess.  Local politics is so effin' corrupt makes me nauseous.  It's like an onion, you can't get through but a couple layers before you start crying.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #537 on: December 29, 2012, 07:32:46 PM »


Isn't it still just spy shots and renderings at this point?


Yup, plus the leaked manual pics or whatever they are.  The problem is they all have similar aspects in common.  Camaro lights, Nissan GTR/Gundam angles, cheesy vents, and a Hoffmeister kink?!  In this case, seems like the myths are based on fact.  Almost makes me want to get a 2013 Corvette in memorium.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #538 on: December 29, 2012, 09:43:48 PM »

I've actually always found the C6 to be rather dull. Aside from the lights, the car hasn't changed all that much from the C4. It's about time they did something different.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #539 on: December 29, 2012, 11:40:46 PM »

It's looks clean and tight.  Dark colors let the light accentuate the minimalist sculpture better.  The C5 was too bloated for my tastes, looks like Nikki Minaj.  The C6 added a dash of Acura NSX.  C7 seems to be GTR inspired...

Favorite Corvette is still the 1967 Stingray.  That and the GT40 are still the greatest American sports cars ever IMHO.

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