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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #480 on: December 08, 2012, 06:37:10 AM »

Personally, a higher body wouldn't be terrible, so long as the performance and handling isn't screwed in the process.


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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #481 on: December 08, 2012, 07:04:02 AM »

Agreed.  I don't understand why there aren't any humble cars on the market anymore.  Everything's trying to look like either a race car or like a flame throwing monstertruck.  it's a Fiesta.  Come on.  Let it just be a regular car.  Same goes with the center stack.  It's not a space ship.  These are air conditioning buttons for heavens sake.  I don't need to feel like I'm launching missles every time I turn on the heat. 

I guess I just don't like how fake the whole thing is.  There are a lot of sports cars that look more humble than all the economy grocery toters out today. 
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #482 on: December 09, 2012, 05:30:46 AM »

Drove a 07 CLK63 AMG. Holy shit is that a nice car. This one did have an effects kit which I normally don't care for, but it looked stunning as well. If MBZ brought that car back in a couple of years...

There will be no more CLKs, Mercedes is consolidating their brand names, while BMW is doing the exact opposite ironically enough. CLK is now E-class coupe, while the 3 series coupe will become the BMW 4 series. At least so far they have avoided AMGing the coupe, which is odd as MB usually does an AMG version everything, and the E-coupe seems to make a lot more sense than say, a GL63. You can get that sweet V8 in the C-class coupe, though, including the Black Series if you're hardcore(tm).

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #483 on: December 09, 2012, 10:55:33 PM »

The whole '4 Coupe' thing is funny, especially as it looks like a 6 series now.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #484 on: December 10, 2012, 01:57:37 AM »

I think BMW just wants to be Audi. Not quite sure as to the logic of that, since they earned their success being BMW. I like the looks of the new coupe - really like - but I'm kinda dreading the drive, what with the new electric power steering and the supposedly more isolated overall feel in the new 3. Hopefully they'll tune the coupe to be a bit sharper.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #485 on: December 10, 2012, 03:59:45 AM »

I think BMW just wants to be Audi. Not quite sure as to the logic of that, since they earned their success being BMW. I like the looks of the new coupe - really like - but I'm kinda dreading the drive, what with the new electric power steering and the supposedly more isolated overall feel in the new 3. Hopefully they'll tune the coupe to be a bit sharper.

I'd be curious how sales of the F30 are doing compared to the E90. I think the idea is that BMW wants more volume, meaning softer riding, heavier, more feature packed cars with less emphasis on steering precision and more on luxury. I'd say they are going after M-B customers more than Audi, who is sort of going the opposite way. New Audis are lighter, WAY faster than before, and with some exceptions, the best handling cars they've ever made. The S6 is a speed demon that can outrun an M5 and an E63 in a stoplight race. The old V-10 version could never hack that.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #486 on: December 11, 2012, 01:47:48 AM »

Got to hang out in an Aventador yesterday.  Surprisingly quality interior that isn't done justice in the pics.  Same for the MP4-12C.  The handleless swipe feature is a bit odd on the Mc and so was the odd door gap that seemed to be intentional and not a QC issue as it was the same on both sides.  The Rolls Ghost has no clearance for knees but I'm told I'm not supposed to be in the front anyway.  At least it too has the integrated umbrella like the Phantom.

As lovely as the new exterior and interior of the Cayman/Boxster is, I was quite disappointed w/ the rather cramped and uncomfortable seating and position.  Surprisingly, the FRS had better seats and better position.  The 911 interior was better than the Boxster/Cayman as well but that's the kind of Porsche I wouldn't ever buy being averse to heavy, portly, RRs.

Oh, this is just too odd to not be true.  We were over at the Ford display when the air started to fill with a burning smell.  A friend asked the reps what was burning and they said they had no idea.  I chimed in asking if it was perhaps some of their cars.  They did not look happy.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #487 on: December 11, 2012, 06:59:45 AM »

I wonder what was behind the decision to stick with a single clutch sequential manual in the Aventador, as that seems to be one of the few knocks against it (aside from strange ceramic brake fade). I wonder if it's just a power thing, Audi has a DSG now capable of serving in the R8 V-10, but of course the Aventador has way more power than that.

Still, the Lambo is definitely cool. Considering how many times the Gallardo has been massaged and improved over its long life, I think there's much greater yet to come from the Aventdor, ie Superveloce. 
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #488 on: December 11, 2012, 08:14:27 PM »

It's not the power - the F12 Berlinetta has more power and a dual-clutch box - it's the weight. A dual-clutch box that can handle the power would have been over 100lbs heavier. That's also why the Huayra has a single-clutch box. The LFA, strangely, started out with a dual-clutch box and then went to a single-clutch because the engineers wanted a more abrupt gearshift feel. Or so Clarkson says anyway.

Incidentally, Clarkson on the LFA.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #489 on: December 11, 2012, 08:33:37 PM »

Sorry If I haven't read the whole thread but I figure all this talk about cars means that there is no solution to the problem. Why not just get something like a mclaren if used for the street or a bigfoot for offroad. Thats that LOL. Well maybe a formula1 Ferrari is good too but will not be driveable on a regular street.
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