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Author Topic: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)  (Read 158892 times)

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #430 on: November 19, 2012, 06:10:47 AM »

That doesn't have AC does it?

The 2007 Lexus LS460 had everything capable of driving itself.  In fact, Lexus was asked about this fact and if they would seize upon the technology in the car to do so, they replied their legal counsel thought it would be a bad idea to 'implement' it.

That's probably going to be the biggest hurdle to truly self driving cars - regulatory approval. Who's at fault in an accident? The owner? The car company? Google?
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #431 on: November 19, 2012, 06:17:49 AM »

That doesn't have AC does it?

The 2007 Lexus LS460 had everything capable of driving itself.  In fact, Lexus was asked about this fact and if they would seize upon the technology in the car to do so, they replied their legal counsel thought it would be a bad idea to 'implement' it.

That's probably going to be the biggest hurdle to truly self driving cars - regulatory approval. Who's at fault in an accident? The owner? The car company? Google?

Probably whoever has money to pay.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #432 on: November 19, 2012, 10:04:33 PM »

ooh.. the BMW 135i is looking pretty good to my eyes..An 08 with about 50k can set me back by 22-24k..not bad for a 300HP machine. Might have to go take a test drive
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #433 on: November 19, 2012, 10:11:46 PM »

Hopefully some day the steering wheel will just be a big ipad too.

We're not that far off. Cars with lane keep assist and radar cruise can pretty much drive themselves now, they just awkwardly bounce back and forth between the lane markers. In another few decades, most cars will probably be able to do this on major roads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9kepmwrH5o

How about ipads for door handles?  That would be snazzy
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #434 on: November 19, 2012, 10:53:25 PM »

Corolla drivers ftw!  :D
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #435 on: November 19, 2012, 10:59:37 PM »

Corolla drivers ftw!  :D
I have a Corolla based Rav-4. It would have been the best thing evar... but no iPad controls, so no cigar.

Actually, the handling is not so good (probably because of the body.) Bought it just before my son was born, and partly for that reason. So far I have had no major problems with it after 5 years of use. I also agree iPad stuff can be distracting.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #436 on: November 20, 2012, 02:49:49 PM »

ooh.. the BMW 135i is looking pretty good to my eyes..An 08 with about 50k can set me back by 22-24k..not bad for a 300HP machine. Might have to go take a test drive

Just watch those HPFPs. I know a guy who had a 135i.  One stranding due to the HPFP was one to many.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #437 on: November 20, 2012, 07:17:40 PM »

Veni, vidi, vici.

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #438 on: November 25, 2012, 02:44:47 AM »

God, that guy is so full of shit.  Let's see if the Koenigsegg is the wild beast Top Gear made it out to be?  Are you kidding, they sent Top Gear a car without a rear wing, just as they designed it originally.  Scary thought.  Top Gear even followed it up after asking Koenigsegg to put a damned wing on it.  I hate intellectually dishonest journalistic hyperbole like this guy is feeding the camera.  He knows very well the real events surrounding that episode.  I like how he was bouncing off the rev limiter too.  Do they not use RPMs in England or is it British Rotational Units? 

Speaking of wings, it's clear they have issues figuring out aero.  Not only did they originally make their car w/ a rear wing and put a driver's life at risk, but the new wing is poorly designed structurally.  They went for cool looking extended wings w/ centralized posts so now the damn thing flaps around like a goose.

These incremental top speed records/accomplishments are just ridiculous marketing nonsense.  Knocking a 1-1.5 secs off from 0-60?  Good.  Dropping 10-20ft off your braking distance?  Good.  3-5 more mph in the slalom?  Good.  A few more miles per hour over 240-250mph?  Who freaking cares!  Silly IMHO.  Oh look, my Sony's extend to 140khz, Hooray!! 

The Koni is pretty cool car but some issues are kinda weird like the aero above.  I don't much like the slightly Kit car/Mattel fit and finish look or the Hot Wheels color scheme inside and out.  I also don't like the sound of the cross plane crank in that Ford V8 booosted w/ the annoying blow off valve/tea kettle sound.

If I want to get a really boutique car, I'd probably be content to tool around in one these as a daily beater.  Been following their development since 2005.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axH6Soh9THE&feature=related

Edit - Sigh....  http://www.artega.de/index_en.html
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #439 on: November 25, 2012, 02:15:03 PM »

What I like about the Koni is just the insanity of it. Most super cars just aren't like that anymore, it's like what would've happened if Lambo had taken the Countach formula and went wild with it, instead of trying to make every day drivers cars starting with the Murcielago and succeeding with the Aventador. It's just a monster. If you want to go fast on a track, buy yourself a 599XX. If you want to scare yourself to death, you buy a Koni.
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