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Cristello

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #400 on: November 16, 2012, 09:25:49 PM »
Having extensively driven a brand-new 2012 Ford Focus (my GF's), I do agree that Ford is putting a lot more thought into raising their interior quality...

However, the automatic version drives like S**T!
The gear changes were neither quick nor smooth, and the weight in the hatch-back model was far too much for the amount of horse-power and torque... She should have listened to me and all the "Car-Mags" and just bought the SE model with upgrades. Ford even realized there was issues about 2 months after her purchase, saying it needed a major upgrade to the ECS for the engine. Why? I can only guess at the true problem, but maybe it has something to do with all those "flaming"-Fords...

Additionally, while the interior looked nice, I found it claustrophobic (i'm only 5'8") and lacking in visibility. The MyTouch nav-system has had three upgrades that absolutely required a return to the dealer, yet still has bugs and resets occasionally.

On the positive side, I had a chance to drive the new 2013 Focus ST last month. I tell you, the ST is Ford's Amperior. It is night and day: the new 6-speed manual is top notch for its price bracket (under 25k), and the weight distribution on par with or better than VW's 2012 GTI, in my experience.  This is certainly an improvement for Ford, as the Golf R is now probably the only logical step above it for a semi-compact wagon.

Of course, VW does have a chance to bring their A-game with the 2013 GTI, and I think I'll make sure to find and test-drive one after I demo the first F-types at a nearby track later this month...
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #401 on: November 16, 2012, 10:32:00 PM »
Come on, you're not seriously comparing a Corolla to a Lada. I grew up with the fucking things - not literally of course, being political dissidents out family was kept poor enough that we'd never even catch a whiff of a car - but they were some seriously awful tin cans. The Russkis could make good cars - the various Zil presidential limos were quite advanced for their time - but aside from ranking party officials you would never got close to one. And you'd thank your lucky stars for that, too.

Ditto on the 30s art deco cars, definitely the absolute pinnacle of automotive styling.




Your limo, Mr. Wayne.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #402 on: November 16, 2012, 10:46:51 PM »
U know the F-type is a ragtop right?  The coupe has dropped off the radar for the next year or two.


As for Ford, I was seriously looking to give them a shot w/ the SVT Raptor, but recent reports are worrisome to me.  I'm in no hurry.  I honestly didn't care about the sync stuff as the double din would be one of the first things I'd rip out of the vehicle anyway.  The day Microsoft can compete w/ Pioneer or Fujitsu Ten is the day people start lining up outside Windows stores weeks in advance for the new Windows phone.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #403 on: November 17, 2012, 01:52:01 AM »
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #404 on: November 17, 2012, 02:29:31 AM »
Beautiful!

a Rolls Royce Phantom 1 "Jonckheere" coupé, model year: 1925, I believe?
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #405 on: November 17, 2012, 03:16:53 AM »
Quote from: Analixus on November 16, 2012, 03:25:29 PM

Long live the Hachiroku!



try Initial D:

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #406 on: November 17, 2012, 05:15:11 AM »
Quote from: Cristello on November 17, 2012, 02:29:31 AM
Beautiful!

a Rolls Royce Phantom 1 "Jonckheere" coupé, model year: 1925, I believe?
Correct.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #407 on: November 17, 2012, 06:54:59 AM »
Quote from: rhythmdevils on November 16, 2012, 08:26:36 PM
I personally don't like those either.  I guess I don't want the interior to be stylized like that.  The interior of a car, to me, is about functionality.  I want things simple, easy to find and use, and I want them to not distract me from the road.  Any more than that has a kind of ultrasone feel to me.  I mean fake wood?   Put the sex on the outside of the car, once you're inside who cares.  It's kind of like wearing sexy underwear I don't really see the point.  Sexy clothes, yes, but once someone has taken off your clothes and sees your underwear it's too late, they've already made up their minds about you.  Anyone who is turned off by plain underwear isn't worth it anyways.  You know, at some point you have to stop trying to sell yourself and get real.

See I really dig the latest M-B interiors. They are still using the classic "T" shape that most of the rest of the industry has moved on from in favor of odd-ball angles and "cockpit" designs, but they are making it work and look modern, as opposed to the recently departed Lexus LS which is another T shape car that looks 10 years out of date. I think the CLS in particular is sweet. The BMW 6 is pretty much the complete opposite, it defines "new school" car interiors and I don't like it.

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #408 on: November 17, 2012, 07:02:33 AM »
Quote from: Maxvla on November 17, 2012, 05:15:11 AM
Quote from: Cristello on November 17, 2012, 02:29:31 AM
Beautiful!

a Rolls Royce Phantom 1 "Jonckheere" coupé, model year: 1925, I believe?
Correct.

What a beauty. Only the Spyker is really anything like that today. The Mulsanne just seems like a guessied up Phaeton to me.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #409 on: November 17, 2012, 07:40:21 AM »
Already did Initial D up till dad started schooling him with his blue WRX.  Did you know Tsuchiya's AE86 was the inspiration for the anime?
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