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Anaxilus.

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #370 on: November 15, 2012, 05:51:16 AM »

I don't know, the new Impreza is the same size as my Legacy (same chassis I think) so I wouldn't say it's too small.  The new Legacy is size of the new Camrys and Accords so not quite SUV either.  They still sell the WRX/STI 5-door.

Btw, the designer of the FRS, Tada-san, once again just crapped all over Subaru's assertion of a turbo.  See end of story.  Either Subaru and Toyota will take different paths or Subaru keeps talking out its ass (again) about future models.

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=26650
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #371 on: November 15, 2012, 05:57:33 AM »

This thing is a fucking monstrosity. 



I think the newer corrolas and Accord are ridiculously big too.  They're like SUV's with car styling. 
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #372 on: November 15, 2012, 06:06:02 AM »

Well, a lot of the new bulk and proportions are part of federal crash and Euro pedestrian safety standards.  Raised cars, raised hoods, high beltlines, big wheel gaps, chunky noses, etc.  There has to be a perfect storm of of design choices to avoid a lot of it.  Mid-engined cars and FR's w/ the engine pushed up on the firewall can escape a lot of regs.

http://www.straight-six.com/blog/?p=2436

Btw, forgot that Toyota implemented the new brake/throttle defeat to deal w/ the retards driving their cars.  Which means unless I can defeat it, I will never buy a FRS/BRZ.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #373 on: November 15, 2012, 06:39:35 AM »

Damn, you have any more articles about that Mike?  I've been bitching (as you know) about the high hoods and high car bodies for what seems like a decade now.  Just looks terrible.  You said that before, but I guess I didn't take it seriously. 

What's the brake/throttle defeat?
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #374 on: November 15, 2012, 09:38:39 AM »

This thing is a fucking monstrosity. 



I think the newer corrolas and Accord are ridiculously big too.  They're like SUV's with car styling.

Wagons don't sell here, not unless they are jacked up, hideous SUV wannabes like the Outback. It has nothing to do with crash regs. You can still make a genuine wagon if you want to, see the MB E-class wagon. Subaru styled that monster on purpose. In any case, you buy a Subaru in spite of how it looks, not because of it. That's pretty much always been the case, perhaps with the rare exception of the previous gen Legacy which was mildly attractive, at least from the front. Side profile was a disaster.

I haven't noticed the Corolla getting any bigger. Honestly that car has always been such a shit box that I rarely pay any attention to it at all. Corolla buyers are people who've given up on life. They don't care what their car looks like, how big it is, and they certainly don't care how it drives.

The outgoing Accord was indeed a monster, but not a surprise coming from Honda which has been running around in the dark lately, crashing into things. The latest Accord does seem to be at least a small step in the right direction. It's smaller and more attractive, though not stylish like the Fusion or the new Mazda6. Somebody actually had a thought in their head about center stack design, and the engines aren't 10 year old retreads mated to a hoary old 5-speed. Honda actually did some work on that car instead of just expecting people to line up for reheated leftovers just because it says "H" on the front. Hyundai won't let them get away with being lazy anymore.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #375 on: November 15, 2012, 10:07:23 AM »

Finally got this lady's insurance to accept liability. Got my car scheduled for repair in December and they are paying for me to rent a Chevy Cruze (normal stripper version likely) so I can really get to know the car. Even planning a road trip with it! I'll have it for about 10 days. A nice LONG test drive.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #376 on: November 15, 2012, 03:45:38 PM »

Drove the Cruze while i was in Alaska. 1000 miles in 6-7 days. i liked that car. Good gas mileage too.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #377 on: November 15, 2012, 07:14:59 PM »

Yeah, I don't think Corolla buyers have given up on life, they just don't care about cars. Let's face it, if you want a cheap, reliable appliance for getting from point a to point b, and you neither know nor care one whit about cars, the Corolla will be at the top of your list. A friend of mine had one, and he certainly falls into that category, though he's trading it in for a Scion iQ. Don't ask.

For many people, car buys are made out of convenience, and what they have does not in any way reflect what they actually want.

Ditto on the new Accord, it's seems to be a whole lot better than the last one. And the old Accords are still nowhere near as hideous as the monstrosities Acura has been putting out lately. Yikes. Talk about completely going off your rocker and losing touch with your customers.

Also, it's very annoying to finally convince yourself that you don't want a 335 (with n54), and then driving one for a while and realizing that all your self-rationalization was totally pointless, and that you still want one to the point where nothing else will do.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #378 on: November 15, 2012, 07:58:00 PM »

Hey.. I had a corolla for the last two years. I liked that car a fair bit for what it would do. Have even hauled two dirt bikes behind it and my sports bike to the track and back 200 miles away. Put 22k miles in that time not counting the 6k on the motorcycle. Its a great beat arounder. Driving down the road with two dobermans sticking their heads out on either side sure got some looks.

Agreed on the Acura styling. the new ones are crap.

The BMW 330i and 335i are worthy of consideration right now. Hesitating cause they are now a dime a dozen.

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #379 on: November 16, 2012, 01:10:08 AM »

If you're on the used market, then the dime-a-dozen aspect should work in your favor.

But read up on the reliability of the later generation 3-series. There are horror stories out there about BMW cutting corners in QC and manufacturing when the EURO was strong against the Dollar to maintain competitive pricing.

All this talk of the FR-S is giving me buyers remorse for getting this shitbox Prius. Maybe in a couple of years when the second-gen comes out. I've sort've lost interest in cars over the years though, so who knows maybe a Corolla is eventually in store for me.
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