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Author Topic: The New Car Saga (and general auto chat)  (Read 158892 times)

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #350 on: November 05, 2012, 04:06:36 AM »

I've always loved Kimi the mumbler.


A couple other great quotes from Kimi at Abu Dhabi:

Team: "We need to keep working all four tyres, keep working all four tyres..."
Kimi: "Yes yes yes yes yes. I'm doing all the time, you don't have to remind me every second."

Coulthard: "What are your emotions at this time?"
Kimi: "Not much really. Last time you guys who were giving me shit because I didn't really smile enough so maybe this time again.."

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #351 on: November 05, 2012, 09:11:06 AM »

Place 2: Kimi´s extraordinary hobby
Q: Kimi, do you have any hobbies?
KR: I collect walnuts.

Quite Pythonesque in the silly way, he has a wooden quality to his hobby at least.

Source: http://kimiisland.wordpress.com/about/
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #352 on: November 08, 2012, 01:37:09 AM »

Analixus, I totally agree with the your comments on GM's focus these days. They should have brought Caddy back to its luxury roots and put the racing-spec' stuff into Dodge where it belongs! I mean, what is the rationale behind pitting two of your own brands against each other?

anyway, I find it hard to get excited for mid-tier performance cars, but I just about wet myself when I saw the upcoming F-type Coupé. Jag might just make a serious comeback new models like this one:

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #353 on: November 08, 2012, 03:44:01 AM »

Analixus, I totally agree with the your comments on GM's focus these days. They should have brought Caddy back to its luxury roots and put the racing-spec' stuff into Dodge where it belongs! I mean, what is the rationale behind pitting two of your own brands against each other?

Dodge? Wuh? You know Dodge is Chrysler/Fiat, right? The new Dart is a Fiat. I don't think the V-series has been a bad idea for Cadillac to pursue. The original CTS-V and the XLR-V were both kind of lame, but the new versions are respectable cars, as this is coming from a guy that generally hates Cadillac.

You don't get to just make a $100K+ super lux car and expect people to just show up. It doesn't work that way. Ask VW how many W12 Phaetons they sold here. You have to build the brand first. Hyundai can try with the Equus, but they're only going to get shoppers looking for a "bargain". That car does not seriously compete with the S-class or the A8.

Once Cadillac has established themselves as a firm BMW and Mercedes rival, THEN they can try to take on the 7 series and the S class. They aren't there yet, but the ATS and the CTS are turning things around.

If you want to see how not to do it, look at Acura. The ZDX has been an epic flop, and the RLX is likely to bomb just like every past iteration of the RL going back to '96. Acura can't move $50K cars except for the MDX. They don't have the brand for it.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #354 on: November 08, 2012, 04:21:10 AM »

Dodge? Wuh? You know Dodge is Chrysler/Fiat, right? The new Dart is a Fiat.

Wow... That must have been the biggest mental fumble I've had all day...

Regardless, I think we both agree that to attract customers in a price bracket that high, you need a name. Most people won't go for it right out of the gate when a comparable (or even lesser) BMW or Mercedes has "class" and adds to a person's social status. I'd like to think that performance and innovative design ultimately rule. But at the end of the day, there seems to be too many people with fear or insecurity that they would knowingly sacrifice advancement and progress for the sake of "cool". Same story in headphones these days, huh?

Now, please don't think I believe aesthetics and style don't matter! Especially in the luxury segment, it certainly has to feel good. Iconic and familiar style can definitely inspire greater satisfaction. I just wonder where people put their priorities when comparing, because I find it hard to enjoy a car when I know I could have gotten one that performs better.

(...and Acura? last time I'd considered one of their cars was in the early '90s: an old Integra Type-R.)  :)p13
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #355 on: November 08, 2012, 04:23:55 AM »

I dunno. Shiny relatively new BMW and Mercedes (unless you are Asian) to me means "underwater mortgage poster boy / girl".
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #356 on: November 08, 2012, 04:44:04 AM »

I dunno. Shiny relatively new BMW and Mercedes (unless you are Asian) to me means "underwater mortgage poster boy / girl".

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #357 on: November 08, 2012, 05:16:27 AM »

Thought I'd pop in here because I had some car changes in the past few days.

Over the weekend we got a '09 CTS. I was really set on a 3-series, but after reading about how unreliable the latest ones are (prompted by comments in this thread) I decided to steer clear. So far, no complaints. It feels bigger than what I'd like, and the steering is a bit vague, but the car is handsome and feels well-built.

Yesterday, I traded in the 350Z for a '11 Prius. Obviously drives like a shit box. Less of a car, and more an appliance for transportation -- but will love the MPG for a commute car. My inner geek loves the techie-ness of it, and my car wasn't even optioned with the crazy solar panel sunroof or radar cruise control.

Both cars are iPod-compatible, so I feeling myself being sucked back in to the clutches of the Apple ecosystem....
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #358 on: November 08, 2012, 06:58:56 AM »

I dunno. Shiny relatively new BMW and Mercedes (unless you are Asian) to me means "underwater mortgage poster boy / girl".

Depends. If it's a C250 or a stripper 328i, then yes, somebody stretched to make the rent payments there. An E550 or or 535i though, those buyers can afford those cars easily - at least the first owners can. The second owner is going to have to work a little harder for that CPO purchase. The third owner, the one who comes in when the car is 7+ years old and has 80K miles on it, those buyers are the ones with the underwater mortgages, and those are the buyers that are going to be hit with $2K repairs.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #359 on: November 12, 2012, 10:54:48 PM »

Roooomy!  Paging Professor Muppetface!!  All for the measly price of a couple hundred Muramasas!


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