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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #300 on: October 05, 2012, 12:46:09 AM »

Bring out the brits? Morgan to the rescue...

and ze Germans

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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #301 on: October 05, 2012, 08:46:20 AM »


A Spyker maybe...
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #302 on: October 05, 2012, 10:23:29 AM »

I actually kinda liked the older Vipers, just because they always seemed like the odd ones out in the usual American muscle car pantheon. The new Viper is actually quite nice from what I've seen of it, and if I were going to do the stereotypical dyke thing I'd probably get one. LOL.

Not really a fan of matte black paint, but that Morgan looks pretty good in it. I do however like matte greys of various shades, especially on Lambos to accentuate their stealth bomber look. The Reventon and Aventador look better in matte paints than in shiny IMO. At least when light is playing off of it (too many angles, so the reflections in the shiny paint are too much versus the more subtle interest of shadow playing off of matte paint). I think it accentuates their geometry.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #303 on: October 05, 2012, 12:50:24 PM »

Or to go in the completely opposite direction, classic drop top cruiser. Zero sporting pretensions, just cool. IMO, the best of these is the Continental MKII, the one that sold for Rolls Royce money in the late '50s. I absolutely adore these things, and they are surprisingly affordable today, well under $100K for a primo example.


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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #304 on: October 08, 2012, 04:12:35 PM »

The Gallardo is another example of a car I like a lot more in convertible form compared to its hard top version. I especially like the thought of the LP 550-2 Spyder with its rear wheel drive. If I could get that in "Mars red" from the Super Trofeo version of the 570-4... that would be perfect.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #305 on: October 08, 2012, 04:52:27 PM »

The Gallardo is another example of a car I like a lot more in convertible form compared to its hard top version. I especially like the thought of the LP 550-2 Spyder with its rear wheel drive. If I could get that in "Mars red" from the Super Trofeo version of the 570-4... that would be perfect.

Yep, Lamborghini really nailed that design, more so I think than the Murcielago. Pretty amazing that it's coming up on its 10th birthday. The design doesn't look stale at all.


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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #306 on: October 09, 2012, 02:38:30 AM »

Went to the OC car show.  Hate to say it, MB and BMW are just way too uncomfortable for me.  C/E-class seats are like torture devices.  S-class slightly better.  Strained my neck getting into the back of a BMW B7 Alpina.  7 series seats are better than before but still, not comfy enough.  Can't stand the bland BMW gauge cluster and ergonomics either.  1 series seems cheap inside and doesn't feel like a small car to me.  Seats and driver area seem tight but the car presents a lot of mass around me.  Audi was/is the only German car I can stand that I could live with.  The S7 was nice.  If I want a comfy Sedan it'll be Lexus or Audi.  I like Jag but the XJ interior is somewhat obnoxious to me compared to even the XF.  Plus long term XF reliabilty reports have not been very good which doesn't bode well for even the new Jaguar unfortunately.  New Lexus ES is the nicest ES they've ever made for sure.  New Lexus grill is kind of lame.  LS looks like the GS which looks like the RX.  WTF.

458 is nice but the Aventador still makes it look like a chick car side by side.  The McLaren had a much nicer interior and driver environment than the pictures/web let on.  I would have no issues spending a lot of time in the MP4-12C.  I'd have to hear the AC to know if the reported whirring fans are really that bad.

FRS was very nice in person.  Steering wheel is too big for me and I'd prefer a flat bottom for left foot braking.  Trunk is surprisingly deep, but not tall.  Fold the useless rear seats down and you can haul a set of four wheel/tires to the track.  Engine bay definitely has enough clearance for a supercharger on top w/ a hood scoop.  Scion trim sucks compared to Subie upgraded trim.  The car actually comes standard w/ 3-way components (Woofer/Mid/tweeter).

A few improvements to the Raptor that bothered me so it's getting closer to what I want.  Get that Toyota Hybrid system  in there (ensuring it's off-road capable)and replace the U-joints w/ CVs and I'm set.


Edit - Oh, sat in the new Miata.  Finally, I can sit comfortably in one!  They fixed the door panel w/ the lame cup holder that popped out rubbing against the side of your knee and calf.  Never was able to get comfortable in any Miata till now.  The retractable hardtop was very nice.  I like the instrument panel more than BMW.  However, I was told the car now tips in at close to 2700lbs!  Hell, it was a tough sell versus the MR2 when the Miata was 2400lbs versus 2200lbs.  A smidge over 2100lbs for the next Miata and it's straight to the next Lotus based Alfa for me.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #307 on: October 09, 2012, 11:46:41 AM »

C-class seats are park benches, no question. Were the seats in the E-class the multi-contour (row of switches by right thigh bolster) or the standard version? I haven't been in the F30 3-series, but the A4 2.0T seats are as bad as anyone else's. Flat, hard, uncomfortable. S4 seats are good. I think they are in-house designs now instead of Recaros, but still very nice. The new A6 seats are fine, but not really any more comfortable than what I've got now in my A6. The door arm rests are still vinyl which is obnoxious (really AoA, even the S6 can't have a freaking leather arm rest but the Q5 can?) but they are at least shaped to be comfortable which isn't the case in the '98 or '05 gen A6s where the rest is just flat and rock hard. The A8 seats I thought were just average, no better than the A6 despite all of those adjustments. The A8 is certainly elegant, but doesn't feel particularly special behind the wheel like a V-12 CL does. I'd rather have the S6.

With the BMW 5-series you have to get the optional sport seats, those are good, the standard ones are not. Agreed on BMW gauges, that orange just doesn't do it for me. Audi's crisp red and white is better by an order of magnitude. I've never understood why Infiniti was crucified for using orange gauges, but BMW's look basically the same as theirs did. Orange and green, yuck. Combine that with the run flat obsession and BMW forgetting what steering feel is and how to program a throttle, and I'm out.

Until a couple of years ago, Lexus seats were TERRIBLE. Over stuffed GM style with absolutely no understanding of back support, and a useless "in or out" lumbar support. The lower back pain I got from Lexus seats was so bad that I couldn't be in one for more than an hour. Supposedly the seats in the new GS are finally shaped for humans, but I absolutely hate their mouse based NAV/info setup so they are out anyway. The GS looks like it has a black hole in the dash.

The A7 is nice, but to me it seemed like they dropped the seat to keep the headroom comparable to the A6, which gave me too much of a "mail slot" feeling peering through the windshield. The A6 isn't perfect (EU style Audi Exclusive seats and the full leather option would go a long way towards fixing that, again thanks a lot AoA) but I prefer it to anything else right now save perhaps the CLS. Still need to drive one of those to be sure.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #308 on: October 13, 2012, 08:03:07 PM »

Price of diesel and gas is separating a bit. We'll see how it is by the time the Cruze diesel is out in early 2013. The premium for the diesel bits and higher cost of diesel might put me in a 2013 Cruze Eco MT since I can run on regular which is running about 70-75 cents cheaper.

I do really like the diesel feel, but the numbers aren't adding up.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #309 on: October 15, 2012, 02:49:09 PM »

PS don't put parts that NISMO say is for racing applications only, I put on the engine mounts for "Racing applications only" and my car is buzzing. haha  Handling is up, buzzing is up too!
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