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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #250 on: September 19, 2012, 07:41:17 AM »
Jeremy is not a very good driver when taken out of the seat of an AMG sled.  Sadly, American Top Gear has the best driver in Tanner Foust. 

I honestly don't get the fascination w/ drag racing or why anyone would car to do so with cars not meant to.  Why not just drop a monkey in the driver's seat and dangle a banana in front of the windshield?  It's most innane expression of skill deficiency I can think of in car apart from turning left in circles continuously.  I'd have more fun tossing a 90's corolla around on the way to the grocery store than driving a Veyron a 1/4 mile.  YMMV, no pun intended of course.  ;)

As for Japanese cars, the 300zx is absolutely the worst Z ever till the 350z showed up IMHO.  The greatest, most classic Japanese cars are w/o turbos or AWD.  They are about finesse and elegance (Japanese/British), not brute force and power (German/American).  The fact that Japanese I-6s could make 1000+hp was not design intent but over-engineering and reliability.

240z, Silvia, 510, sports 800, AE86, FRS, 2000GT, LFA (spiritual descendant of the 2000GT), MR2, Integra, NSX, S2000, RX7, Miata.

How exactly is an Aston One-77 not a Supercar and the LFA or Corvette ZR1 is?  Japan has much more in common w/ Britain in it's automotive roots and preferences which is why they like FR's, lightweight and drifting around down touges. 

The GTR was never intended to be Supercar.  It was a big, heavy four door sedan that eventually lost two doors and got boost and AWD.  It is much more of a American style pony car where you drop more displacement into big heavy cars.  Boost is the same thing and no driving purist ever prefers boost over NA.  The Japanese love NA cars, it requires greater engineering precision under greater constraints to squeeze out every drop of performance from NA and delivers a purer experience.  The Evos and Rexes were always designed primarily as Rally cars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHtgnZIxNHc

More Ferrari killers.  facepalm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx4l1hbb9HU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5S1NAMnYKM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4HdsDZX6c
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #251 on: September 19, 2012, 02:29:33 PM »
interesting reads...

whats your take on the Holden Monaro ? specifically the Pontiac GTO which was the export model
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #252 on: September 19, 2012, 04:33:29 PM »
Quote from: sachu on September 19, 2012, 02:29:33 PM
interesting reads...

whats your take on the Holden Monaro ? specifically the Pontiac GTO which was the export model


I thought it was quite nice tbh.  I almost got one a few years back but went for a Subaru Legacy GT instead.  Needed AWD and a boxer engine in my stable.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #253 on: September 19, 2012, 04:37:31 PM »
Quote from: sachu on September 19, 2012, 02:29:33 PM
interesting reads...

whats your take on the Holden Monaro ? specifically the Pontiac GTO which was the export model

The G8 is the better car. GTOs are getting up there in age, and finding one that hasn't been messed with probably won't be easy.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #254 on: September 19, 2012, 05:16:59 PM »
Quote from: DaveBSC on September 19, 2012, 04:37:31 PM
Quote from: sachu on September 19, 2012, 02:29:33 PM
interesting reads...

whats your take on the Holden Monaro ? specifically the Pontiac GTO which was the export model

The G8 is the better car. GTOs are getting up there in age, and finding one that hasn't been messed with probably won't be easy.


Yup, that's what I meant.  For some reason the G8 has always been a GTO in my mind.  >.<  They are both Holden Monaro's just different years.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #255 on: September 20, 2012, 07:02:10 PM »
Oh noes!  Porsche 918 costs $700,000 and has 800hp yet only does Nurburgring in 7:14, same as a the LFA w/ 552hp which costs half the price.  What a bargain! j/k Dave, sort of.   :P
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #256 on: September 20, 2012, 11:01:02 PM »
Still don't like the LFA. And on short tracks its still slower than cars that cost half what IT does.
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #257 on: September 20, 2012, 11:32:41 PM »
Half?  I could drop a few grand into a beater CRX and beat whatever car you are talking about on the Streets of Willow too.  So what?
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #258 on: September 21, 2012, 02:51:48 AM »
I don't know?
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Re: Thinking about a new car, need some help.
« Reply #259 on: September 21, 2012, 03:34:10 AM »
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