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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #240 on: July 21, 2015, 03:25:50 PM »

It is long. It took 3 cups of coffee to get through it. But I learned a lot, so it was worth it.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #241 on: July 21, 2015, 03:35:58 PM »

Cat6 solid core can do this for 1Gbps (~1GHz), this makes me wonder about skin effect for audio cables.

Cat6 can do 10Gbps but it may not go as far in distance as Cat7.

Cat 7...man.
First: "Category 7 is not recognized by the TIA/EIA."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_11801#CAT7

Second: those Newegg cables might not pass Cat 5e. If you're buying it from a consumer market retailer than I would genuinely doubt it's anywhere near Cat 7.
https://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/is-your-cat6-a-dog.htm

Wether is recognized by TIA/EIA or not, I know most Cat7 can do 10Gbps. At least the Belden samples we got quite a few years ago did while I was at another company. I worked on the 10GBase-T PHY. In fact, Cat 5e can also do 10Gbps... up to 50 meters. Though I think I got that to work quite a few meters further than that.

That sample cable is like 10ft. 10ft of Cat 5e w/o any patch panels to worry about should do 10Gbps in its sleep. $5 of overkill right there.

(EDIT: Shut! Should have said meters - we use to have an inside joke "100 meters, 100%", so 10ft is like peanuts.)

(EDIT2: Note 10GBase-T transceivers use quite a bit of adaptive equalization not just for cable but to counter all kinds of echo which your average good-looking ill-functioning mega-buck "shine it must, work it might" audio interface may not have. But the capacity is definitively there.)
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #242 on: July 21, 2015, 04:07:02 PM »

It is long. It took 3 cups of coffee to get through it. But I learned a lot, so it was worth it.

I have to follow your example. Hopefully I can limit myself to two coffees and a snack...
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #243 on: July 24, 2015, 01:41:16 AM »

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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #244 on: July 24, 2015, 08:04:10 AM »

This is interesting, cable lifters may not be snake oil basing on this video:

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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #245 on: July 24, 2015, 08:24:21 AM »

Interesting indeed! I wonder what are the time and voltage resolution settings in that scope?
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #246 on: July 24, 2015, 09:41:35 AM »

I'd say this is probably because of that steel table plate. Who has floor made of this?
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #247 on: July 24, 2015, 04:49:40 PM »

K, anything Cardas does needs to be repeated under controlled conditions. Sorry if I don't trust someone who claims to have invented neodymium for use in his 'earspeakers'.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #248 on: July 24, 2015, 05:59:34 PM »

This is interesting, cable lifters may not be snake oil basing on this video:

I'm curious how somebody like Kimber would respond to that. The vast majority of what they sell has no shielding whatsoever.
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Re: "Audiophoolery"?
« Reply #249 on: July 24, 2015, 07:03:33 PM »

I'd say this is probably because of that steel table plate. Who has floor made of this?

non twisted pair
and exposed barrel touching said metal table
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