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Who shouldn't be trusted?

Steve Guttenberg @ CNET
- 94 (11.6%)
Mike Mercer
- 91 (11.2%)
Mike Fremer @ Stereophile
- 32 (3.9%)
Headphonia.com
- 66 (8.1%)
What Hi-Fi?
- 58 (7.2%)
24bit / Michael Piskor @ Headfonics.com
- 38 (4.7%)
John Grandberg / Project86 @ Head-Fi.com
- 28 (3.5%)
hifiguy528 @ Head-Fi.com
- 64 (7.9%)
Macedonian Hero @ Head -Fi.com
- 48 (5.9%)
Srajan Ebaen @ SixMoons.com
- 72 (8.9%)
Skylab @ Head-Fi.com
- 31 (3.8%)
Chris Connaker @ ComputerAudiophile.com
- 30 (3.7%)
Jude Mansilla @Head-Fi.com
- 116 (14.3%)
Michael Lavorgna (late add - redo vote if you want to add)
- 24 (3%)
TAS / Robert Harley (late add - redo vote if you want to add)
- 19 (2.3%)

Total Members Voted: 162

Voting closes: March 28, 2018, 05:02:01 PM


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nmatheis

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Re: Reviewing the audiophile reviewers
« Reply #180 on: August 23, 2015, 07:24:27 PM »

Writing bad reviews always gets the most interesting (and greatest quantity of) replies for me.

I can testify to that ;)

As long as the review is honest, being critical is highly appreciated!
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Re: Reviewing the audiophile reviewers
« Reply #181 on: August 23, 2015, 08:45:39 PM »

Writing bad reviews always gets the most interesting (and greatest quantity of) replies for me.
My bad review of the Teac UD-501 caused more derisive and belittling replies than anything I've ever written.  So many people spent $800 because of shill reviews and from assuming that more "numbers" and features made it better.

I think that the fact that my review was very rational and detailed, made them particularly angry.  If I had instead just said "yeah sucks ha ha", then they could have discounted it.
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Re: Reviewing the audiophile reviewers
« Reply #182 on: August 23, 2015, 08:49:06 PM »

Conspiracy theory: Maybe there's a Hidden/unwritten rule in audiophile reviews in that you cannot write a total negative review of a major(or future potential) site sponsor.  walk the plank2
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Re: Reviewing the audiophile reviewers
« Reply #183 on: August 23, 2015, 09:05:05 PM »

Conspiracy theory: Maybe there's a Hidden/unwritten rule in audiophile reviews in that you cannot write a total negative review of a major(or future potential) site sponsor.  walk the plank2

Taken from Salvatore's "secret rules of reviewing"

1. Never anger any protected audio industry entity, such as:

A. An important current, or potential, advertiser; including manufacturers, distributors or retailers, or...

B. Any other audio establishment which has a "personal relationship" with you.

2. Delay acknowledging any serious problems with a "protected" component until you give another rave review to the "updated" model which replaces it and "corrects" the problems.

3. Avoid making any direct comparisons with a "protected" component, but if you have to, follow these "Solutions":

   A. Compare the component only to older and/or obsolete models, especially from the same manufacturer. (See Rule #2 above).

   B. If Solution "A" is not possible, compare the component to "competitors" costing either MUCH more or MUCH less.

   C. If both Solutions "A" or "B" are not possible, "neglect" to mention the actual names and model numbers of the rival components that you compare it to in the review.

   D. If Solutions "A", "B" or "C" are all not feasible, and you must compare the model to a current, similarly priced (and "protected") competitor that you must name, then you must be:

  1. As ambiguous as possible, and you must also...
  2. Never describe any problem as "serious" (See Rule #3.E)
  3. Never proclaim one model to be clearly superior to the other(s). In short...
  4. Both (or all) of the components must be seen as equally desirable and of similar value.

   E. Problems or imperfections that aren't obvious (such as no bass below 40 Hz with small speakers), may be described as "serious" (easy to hear) only when using Solutions "A", "B" or "C".

However, any problems described when using Solution "D" must always be "subtle" and "difficult to hear", or even described as an "advancement" if possible.

4. You must never inform readers if an "audiophile" accessory or tweak is also available in a generic form at a fraction of the price that the "protected" manufacturer is charging (Blue Tac and RFI rings etc.).

5. Any and all "transactions" between you and any of the parties mentioned in Rule #1 must always be kept strictly Confidential. Accordingly...

  A. You must never divulge the actual price, if any, you paid to "purchase" your reference components or accessories, or any extra costs you paid, if any, to have those same components updated, modified, repaired, replaced etc.

  B. You must never divulge any "gifts", "favors" or "perks" that you received from the "protected" audio entities, or those with whom you have a "personal relationship".

6. You must never mention the actual costs, even at retail prices, of the parts that are used to manufacture the component.

7. Further to Rules #4 & #6, you must never state, or even imply, that any component o r accessory is "over-priced".

8. The more corrupt your magazine is, the more you shall proclaim your honesty.

9. Magazines shall never divulge the actual percentage of their advertising revenues to their total revenues.

10. OVERRIDE CLAUSE- Some of the preceding rules (#1, #2 & #3) may be ignored only in the event of either a serious (and apparently indefinite) breach of the "personal relationship" between the audio company and reviewer/magazine, and/or the termination, or non-payment, of their advertising contract.


Connaker at CA is definitely following these rules pretty closely these days. Once upon a time, he would directly compare products with other, competing products that he had recently reviewed, and also compare to his own, home built "CAPS" server. That's all gone. Competitors are NEVER mentioned in reviews now, and any questions in the comment section at the end of a review asking "how does this compare to..." are always ignored, no exceptions.
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Re: Reviewing the audiophile reviewers
« Reply #184 on: August 24, 2015, 04:27:03 PM »

Video interview with Michael Fremer of Analog planet:


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Re: Reviewing the audiophile reviewers
« Reply #185 on: August 24, 2015, 04:57:02 PM »

Taken from Salvatore's "secret rules of reviewing"

1. Never anger any protected audio industry entity, such as:

A. An important current, or potential, advertiser; including manufacturers, distributors or retailers, or...

B. Any other audio establishment which has a "personal relationship" with you.

2. Delay acknowledging any serious problems with a "protected" component until you give another rave review to the "updated" model which replaces it and "corrects" the problems.

3. Avoid making any direct comparisons with a "protected" component, but if you have to, follow these "Solutions":

   A. Compare the component only to older and/or obsolete models, especially from the same manufacturer. (See Rule #2 above).

   B. If Solution "A" is not possible, compare the component to "competitors" costing either MUCH more or MUCH less.

   C. If both Solutions "A" or "B" are not possible, "neglect" to mention the actual names and model numbers of the rival components that you compare it to in the review.

   D. If Solutions "A", "B" or "C" are all not feasible, and you must compare the model to a current, similarly priced (and "protected") competitor that you must name, then you must be:

  1. As ambiguous as possible, and you must also...
  2. Never describe any problem as "serious" (See Rule #3.E)
  3. Never proclaim one model to be clearly superior to the other(s). In short...
  4. Both (or all) of the components must be seen as equally desirable and of similar value.

   E. Problems or imperfections that aren't obvious (such as no bass below 40 Hz with small speakers), may be described as "serious" (easy to hear) only when using Solutions "A", "B" or "C".

However, any problems described when using Solution "D" must always be "subtle" and "difficult to hear", or even described as an "advancement" if possible.

4. You must never inform readers if an "audiophile" accessory or tweak is also available in a generic form at a fraction of the price that the "protected" manufacturer is charging (Blue Tac and RFI rings etc.).

5. Any and all "transactions" between you and any of the parties mentioned in Rule #1 must always be kept strictly Confidential. Accordingly...

  A. You must never divulge the actual price, if any, you paid to "purchase" your reference components or accessories, or any extra costs you paid, if any, to have those same components updated, modified, repaired, replaced etc.

  B. You must never divulge any "gifts", "favors" or "perks" that you received from the "protected" audio entities, or those with whom you have a "personal relationship".

6. You must never mention the actual costs, even at retail prices, of the parts that are used to manufacture the component.

7. Further to Rules #4 & #6, you must never state, or even imply, that any component or accessory is "over-priced".

8. The more corrupt your magazine is, the more you shall proclaim your honesty.

9. Magazines shall never divulge the actual percentage of their advertising revenues to their total revenues.

10. OVERRIDE CLAUSE- Some of the preceding rules (#1, #2 & #3) may be ignored only in the event of either a serious (and apparently indefin ite) breach of the "personal relationship" between the audio company and reviewer/magazine, and/or the termination, or non-payment, of their advertising contract.


Connaker at CA is definitely following these rules pretty closely these days. Once upon a time, he would directly compare products with other, competing products that he had recently reviewed, and also compare to his own, home built "CAPS" server. That's all gone. Competitors are NEVER mentioned in reviews now, and any questions in the comment section at the end of a review asking "how does this compare to..." are always ignored, no exceptions.


I think this basically extends to all the more "Famous" reviewers, Mercer, Jude, Headfonia.

Only innerfidelity seems to be real these days.
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Re: Reviewing the audiophile reviewers
« Reply #186 on: August 24, 2015, 08:05:48 PM »

My bad review of the Teac UD-501 caused more derisive and belittling replies than anything I've ever written.

Not sure now if it was your words or Merv's, but I alluded to a not-impressed mention, on another forum, and experienced the same with foaming at the mouth, and a final ghastly cry that, hey, the reviewer had also criticised a $$-two-grand DAC, so was not to be trusted.

Mind you, the guy had just bought the Teac.  Have to admit that I was tempted, once, too. 
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Re: Reviewing the audiophile reviewers
« Reply #187 on: August 25, 2015, 07:13:40 AM »

Thank you. I consider myself a pretty poor wordsmith, but pretty good at developing meaning and spewing it out colloquially.


Your worst words are worth more than most people's best words.
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Re: Reviewing the audiophile reviewers
« Reply #188 on: August 25, 2015, 07:52:56 AM »

Could be a guy trying to establish a reputation so he can position himself to get lots of free gear, permanent loaners, or discounted gear in the future.


I'm on the other side of the fence now... if only you guys how many smooth operators were trying to get "accommodations" on the Studio. Lots of "wink" "wink" shit.

Reading Nomax and Music Alchemist in the HF Diana thread gave me a huge headache
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Re: Reviewing the audiophile reviewers
« Reply #189 on: August 25, 2015, 08:44:59 AM »

Maybe they need more Stong Bad  :)p8

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