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Re: T.H.E. SHOW 2015 Irvine (not Newport) Impressions
« Reply #110 on: June 06, 2015, 04:26:24 PM »

Did anyone get a chance to try a > 64 gig card in the AK Jr.? I meant to do that on Sunday, but I got there late and got side-tracked.

Nope, just my 64gb. It is sdxc1 rated though, not a 64gb sdhc. Are your cards sdxc2 with the extra pin?
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Re: T.H.E. SHOW 2015 Irvine (not Newport) Impressions
« Reply #111 on: June 06, 2015, 04:36:44 PM »

No 64GB card is SDHC. SDXC is the standard for cards above 32GB in size.
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Re: T.H.E. SHOW 2015 Irvine (not Newport) Impressions
« Reply #112 on: June 06, 2015, 04:54:59 PM »

For reference: can anyone compare the 400S to 400i?
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Re: T.H.E. SHOW 2015 Irvine (not Newport) Impressions
« Reply #113 on: June 06, 2015, 05:05:56 PM »

No 64GB card is SDHC. SDXC is the standard for cards above 32GB in size.

Beg to differ. It's not as simple as that. I've talked to the Sandisk guys a few times at CES over the years.







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Re: T.H.E. SHOW 2015 Irvine (not Newport) Impressions
« Reply #114 on: June 06, 2015, 05:10:00 PM »

For reference: can anyone compare the 400S to 400i?

Been awhile since I heard the 400i at CES in Jan 2014. All I remember was it was pretty neutral but bass had lost its magic from the 400 and was now one note. Didn't leave a memorable impression with me. I liked the 400s more so this time. A little more engaging, still neutral, bass seemed more textured but not to original 400 capacity. I want to say it sounds a little better to me for quite a bit less money. This is not a direct comparison though, so...
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Re: T.H.E. SHOW 2015 Irvine (not Newport) Impressions
« Reply #115 on: June 06, 2015, 05:33:48 PM »

Beg to differ. It's not as simple as that. I've talked to the Sandisk guys a few times at CES over the years.

You can beg to differ all you want, but bullshit from Sandisk sales reps at CES doesn't mean this is correct.

None of those cards are technically SDHC. It's clearly outlined in the SD Association spec starting at 3.00 and consistent today at 4.10. The NAND density on those cards is too high to be considered SDHC. ALL of these manufacturers are skirting the fact that they aren't supporting all the correct iops from a controller standpoint to label these SDXC. So no, there are no 64GB SDHC cards, despite what anyone is branding them.


Edit: to be more specific, these cards meet the SDXC physical spec and NOT the SDHC physical spec. The controllers DON'T meet the SDXC spec so they're using bullshit branding.

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Re: T.H.E. SHOW 2015 Irvine (not Newport) Impressions
« Reply #116 on: June 06, 2015, 05:48:24 PM »

You can beg to differ all you want, but bullshit from Sandisk sales reps at CES doesn't mean this is correct.

None of those cards are technically SDHC. It's clearly outlined in the SD Association spec starting at 3.00 and consistent today at 4.10. The NAND density on those cards is too high to be considered SDHC. ALL of these manufacturers are skirting the fact that they aren't supporting all the correct iops from a controller standpoint to label these SDXC. So no, there are no 64GB SDHC cards, despite what anyone is branding them.

NAND is considered lifeblood for mobile devices. I have to know this shit if I want to remain employed.

Those are pre spec 3.0 dude. There was life before spec 3.0 and 4.10. I talk to engineers, not marketing. A lot of manus populated 64gb sdhc cards to undercut sdxc and rake in money on the sly. Ancient Chinese technique.

And if they aren't supporting the iops then they they aren't to sdxc spec either. Plus if any 64GB cards come formatted in FAT32 and not exFAT it is by definition sdhc, not sdxc per the spec.
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Re: T.H.E. SHOW 2015 Irvine (not Newport) Impressions
« Reply #117 on: June 06, 2015, 08:50:40 PM »

For reference: can anyone compare the 400S to 400i?


Only got a quick 5 minute a/b session on Sunday (they were already packing up) with my stack (rwimod/piccolo) the 400i was almost exclusively tremble (not bright just excentuated) and mids were hollowed out.  The 400s was just neutral not sweet mids but not hollowed out, tremble was a little less present but still far from rolled off, and the bass was present came in and faded out when it needed too. 

Thanks LFF for making listen to them.  Other than the code-x never been into hifimans but the 400s is damn good. 
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Re: T.H.E. SHOW 2015 Irvine (not Newport) Impressions
« Reply #118 on: June 08, 2015, 05:57:04 PM »


Only got a quick 5 minute a/b session on Sunday (they were already packing up) with my stack (rwimod/piccolo) the 400i was almost exclusively tremble (not bright just excentuated) and mids were hollowed out.  The 400s was just neutral not sweet mids but not hollowed out, tremble was a little less present but still far from rolled off, and the bass was present came in and faded out when it needed too. 

Thanks LFF for making listen to them.  Other than the code-x never been into hifimans but the 400s is damn good. 
Been awhile since I heard the 400i at CES in Jan 2014. All I remember was it was pretty neutral but bass had lost its magic from the 400 and was now one note. Didn't leave a memorable impression with me. I liked the 400s more so this time. A little more engaging, still neutral, bass seemed more textured but not to original 400 capacity. I want to say it sounds a little better to me for quite a bit less money. This is not a direct comparison though, so...

Thanks for that.
I, too, found the 400i midrange to be kind of hollow - especially next to the HE-560. Seems like the 400s would be an improvement, then.

How about the soundstage / separation?
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Re: T.H.E. SHOW 2015 Irvine (not Newport) Impressions
« Reply #119 on: June 08, 2015, 06:16:21 PM »

It's no HD800. Mid-fi level at best.
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