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Author Topic: The Amazing Super Duper Underrated HD650. A Headphone That Kicks Serious Ass.  (Read 51298 times)

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Overall I think it's more the implementation of a given technology than just that's something's a dynamic, or a 'stat, or a planar magnetic.

That's true, HEK and some vintage planars are more resolving than most other isodynamics of today. In general, I do feel that there is sort of an "anti-aliasing" effect, for better or more worse, with most of today's planars.
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With the tweaks, the HD650 sounds faster, crisper, more lively, less over damped. I would not attempt these tweaks on the HD600 though. Overall, maybe a few db too much mid-bass, but everything else sounds just right.

I removed the rear foam and heard the mid-bass as a bit too boomy/muddy, similar to what I hear with a higher Zout source but less pleasant (dual mono Buffalo IIs directly into a Lundahl amorphous core OT).  I wonder if there is a subjective difference between decreasing the acoustic damping (the mod) v decreased electrical damping (higher Zout).  I also wonder if the "quarter mod" would re-store the subjective balance (I replaced the foam and didn't proceed with this).  Did the CSD change with the mods (I realize it might not have been measured pre- and post mods)?
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I personally love the mod, I think the hd650 sounds better with it.
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CSD should show longer decay, since there the air is now more compliant and does not as strongly resist the driver's excursion and return to the center position. With treble, this is good, since the treble wasn't all too present stock. I assume mids sound more wet/full/lively (like a very brief echo/resonance, much like the one you hear in your chest when singing). But the bass is becomes slower than it already is (although now at a lower dB). I think that this mod is a matter of exchanging better FR and impulse response for worse CSD. FR is becomes flatter because the back foam is a semi closed chamber that reinforces bass at a certain frequency and attenuates but causes some ridges in treble (since the foam reflects some treble back). Keeping front damping without the quarter mod also contributes to bass resonance and treble attenuation (and spiking).

I see how you describe the headphones as boomy; the modded HD650's articulation is faster but less controlled.
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Interesting re. your observations/thoughts about CSD, similar to what I was thinking.

As to FR, I had been thinking the rear foam damped the combined driver/rear chamber (more like a short pipe, I guess) resonance.

Perhaps it is the combination of the two mods that is required to restore subjective balance.

Bill
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Just received mine   :)p1  .

HD650  from December 2014 and the CH650S Sennheiser Balanced cable.  I'm happy as a pig in shit.

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I have known my HD650 for many years now.
Had (brief) love affairs with many other headphones but always returned home to the HD650.
Maybe because I can trust it.
Maybe because I feel I can easily get the best out of it without having to alter it physically.
I take it the way it is, just feed it with a different diet as it were.
Had to fill up the two cushions on the top once and now its firm again.
Otherwise the HD650 still looks and feels great and love every song it sang for me.
Still very happy with this HD650 and have the feeling it will never leave me.... God knows I tried a few times though.
What more can I say .... not a FOTM for me, not even a FOTY or FOTD
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I Feel like the HD800 + HD650 could be my end-game and would surely cover all bases for my music enjoyment.

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Tempting guadeloupe HD650 is tempting. Indeed.  walk the plank

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I Feel like the HD800 + HD650 could be my end-game and would surely cover all bases for my music enjoyment.
Exactly my thoughts too!
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