Topic: Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing" (Read 6341 times)

Nekonokira · « **Reply #80 on:** May 09, 2015, 09:43:24 PM »

Quote from: anetode on May 09, 2015, 09:36:29 PM

As there being a sizable comorbidity between autism and mental retardation.

Welp, it's called autism spectrum for a reason.

anetode · « **Reply #81 on:** May 09, 2015, 09:49:28 PM »

Quote from: Nekonokira on May 09, 2015, 09:43:24 PM

Welp, it's called autism spectrum for a reason.

Yup, which is why I'm guessing he mentioned retardation to specifically exclude high-functioning autism.

Nekonokira · « **Reply #82 on:** May 09, 2015, 09:57:20 PM »

Quote from: anetode on May 09, 2015, 09:49:28 PM

Yup, which is why I'm guessing he mentioned retardation to specifically exclude high-functioning autism.

Ah, okay that made me figure it out. Reading this whole discussion as a nonnative english speaker is pretty hard.

anetode · « **Reply #83 on:** May 09, 2015, 10:04:02 PM »

Quote from: Nekonokira on May 09, 2015, 09:57:20 PM

Ah, okay that made me figure it out. Reading this whole discussion as a nonnative english speaker is pretty hard.

No problem. In the past couple of decades there's been a move away from making reference to someone as being a "retard" as it has become a common insult in modern english, much like the medical terms "idiot", "cretin" and "imbecile" went out of favor early in the twentieth century. It brings up the interesting irony that even political correctness cycles through terms as though going through some planned obsolescence. Ultimately it seems that popular usage becomes the final arbiter.

Marvey · « **Reply #84 on:** May 09, 2015, 10:18:54 PM »

"autism" vs. "retardation": political correctness taken too far can cause harm by setting unrealistic expectations. I know most of you are not parents, so probably more difficult for you to grasp.

I've seen one too many parents hoping that their "autistic" child will "grow out if it" and become functioning or near-normal. It's an extremely sad moment when a parent, after 15 years of hope, special schools, special teachers, etc. finally realizes that his/her child is indeed retarded will never be like Dustin Hoffman in Rainman or "Hands" in Boston Legal.

I've experienced too many instances of "My child is autistic.", and I'm thinking "No, your child is severely retarded."

lm4der · « **Reply #85 on:** May 09, 2015, 10:45:13 PM »

I for one think we should all lighten up.

So on that note, did you all know that
"up/dn"
looks the same upside down.

Marvey · « **Reply #86 on:** May 09, 2015, 10:49:59 PM »

Deep Funk · « **Reply #87 on:** May 09, 2015, 10:52:23 PM »

Quote from: purr1n on May 09, 2015, 10:18:54 PM

"autism" vs. "retardation": political correctness taken too far can cause harm by setting unrealistic expectations. I know most of you are not parents, so probably more difficult for you to grasp.

I've seen one too many parents hoping that their "autistic" child will "grow out if it" and become functioning or near-normal. It's an extremely sad moment when a parent, after 15 years of hope, special schools, special teachers, etc. finally realizes that his/her child is indeed retarded will never be like Dustin Hoffman in Rainman or "Hands" in Boston Legal.

I've experienced too many instances of "My child is autistic.", and I'm thinking "No, your child is severely retarded."

There are two dangerous assumptions in our Western culture. Sorry for the "convenient" generalisation. The focus is on the U.S. and (Western) Europe in particular.
1. There is such a thing as "normal" behaviour.
2. Comparisons with others determine what is acceptable.

I come from a religious household but my parents never pushed me to be "normal" nor said "be more like ..." I consider myself lucky. Maybe it is a Dutch thing. Some kids have to deal with normalcy standards and "be like ..." demands. Some kids do well.

Labels and standards are symptoms of our time. In the end the kid is still a little human being. Good parents still understand their child comes first...

Marvey · « **Reply #88 on:** May 09, 2015, 10:58:18 PM »

I don't think you understand. We are not talking about shades of normal or acceptability when it comes to severely retarded kids.

Deep Funk · « **Reply #89 on:** May 09, 2015, 11:06:04 PM »

Agreed, I added a bit of context regarding the jargon and political correctness. You are a parent after all. I am simply a student who observes.

Retardation as in cognitive and behavioural limitations is a complex issue. Parents with such children have to go through a lot.

Poll

What kind of laptop would David Carradine use?

Author Topic: Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing" (Read 6341 times)

Nekonokira

Re: Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing"

anetode

Re: Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing"

Nekonokira

Re: Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing"

anetode

Re: Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing"

Marvey

Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing"

lm4der

Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing"

Marvey

Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing"

Deep Funk

Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing"

Marvey

Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing"

Deep Funk

Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing"

(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});

Poll

What kind of laptop would David Carradine use?

Author Topic: Re: What To Do If You Don't "Like A Thing" (Read 6341 times)