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tiohn

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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #140 on: August 30, 2015, 05:19:32 PM »
The Macbook is pretty old at this point, 2009, but the usb ports are rated at the full 500ma/5V USB spec.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #141 on: August 30, 2015, 05:51:59 PM »
The GO would be very broken if more current from the USB resulted in more volume at the same settings.

The simplest answer is the most likely one,  that the Windows machine setup is scaling the volume differently than the Mac machine, and increasing beyond 100% early in the volume control.

You might consider digging into where 100% is established on each machine and set the volume there.  To go beyond 100% would likely result in worse performance.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #142 on: August 30, 2015, 05:54:41 PM »
Quote from: tiohn on August 30, 2015, 12:58:11 PM
I have a conundrum. My GOV2 is significantly louder (more power?) when playing from my windows laptop than it is from my macbook pro. Both are playing from Roon. I don't recall this being an issue with my GO450, but I may just not have noticed it at that point. From the macbook pro, 75% volume with high gain from the SE plug is comfortable, whereas I can't turn it up past 30% or so on the windows machine.

What might be causing this?

I wish I knew. I have a 2014 Macbook, and my GO 450 also plays a lot louder when the Mac is booted into Windows 7 rather than OSX. It also plays a lot louder when it's connected to my Android phone. I don't think it's a hardware issue. LH Labs wasn't able to help me, and neither was Apple support.

Quote from: sheya on August 30, 2015, 05:51:59 PM
The GO would be very broken if more current from the USB resulted in more volume at the same settings.

The simplest answer is the most likely one,  that the Windows machine setup is scaling the volume differently than the Mac machine, and increasing beyond 100% early in the volume control.

You might consider digging into where 100% is established on each machine and set the volume there.  To go beyond 100% would likely result in worse performance.

You're probably right about it being something like that, Apple support did tell me something about how OSX and Windows probably just manage volume differently. 100% on Windows would probably be way too loud to listen to safely though.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #143 on: August 30, 2015, 06:18:00 PM »
My GOV2 volume sounds the same on my 2013 Mac Book Air, and my Windows 10 laptop...
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #144 on: August 30, 2015, 09:25:07 PM »
Quote from: sheya on August 30, 2015, 05:51:59 PM


The simplest answer is the most likely one,  that the Windows machine setup is scaling the volume differently than the Mac machine, and increasing beyond 100% early in the volume control.



I'll go with it being a difference between how OSX and Windows handle volume control, but I think that OSX is way undershooting 100% volume. I would assume that 60% volume in high gain would be ridiculously loud on the UERM, so that doesn't seem right.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #145 on: August 30, 2015, 09:39:14 PM »
Quote from: tiohn on August 30, 2015, 09:25:07 PM
I'll go with it being a difference between how OSX and Windows handle volume control, but I think that OSX is way undershooting 100% volume. I would assume that 60% volume in high gain would be ridiculously loud on the UERM, so that doesn't seem right.

Yeah, that's really strange. My gut says that there might be a conflict with your Core Audio volume level and the application volume level. When I used the V2+ on my rMBP, it was impossibly loud by 10-15% on high gain using an HD650/Paradox. The UERM would be unwearable.

If you haven't already, you might want to go into Audio Devices/Audio MIDI setup and see if the master volume/ch.1 &2 volume settings are off.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #146 on: August 30, 2015, 11:01:32 PM »
So I've narrowed it down to using exclusive mode in Roon. If I turn off exclusive mode, I can max the device volume in Audio Midi Setup and then the application volume causes the volume levels to behave just like in Windows. Oddly, JRiver and Audirvana run the lowered volume level whether I have exclusive mode set or not. HQPLayer brings it's own batch of stupid. I have no idea what people see in it.

I've submitted support tickets with both LH Labs and Roon. I fully expect both of them to blame the other.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #147 on: September 01, 2015, 01:15:23 AM »
I think I figured it out. It appears that the two different methods of volume control simply have different volume curves. I can't measure it, but max volume sounds like it's the same level whether I'm using hardware or software volume control. Hardware volume control seems to get louder more slowly through low volumes and then ramp up quickly the nearer you get to max volume, while the software volume gets louder more quickly through the lower part of the scale and then more slowly as you get near the top end of the scale.
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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #148 on: September 02, 2015, 09:14:25 PM »
Hey guys,

We're looking at getting some Geek Out V2 impressions on our Amazon product page.  Feel free to hop over here and post your reviews or simply rate the product.  Just know that the chassis issue is something that we are addressing, we know it's a hot topic. 

Anyhow, here's the link to the Geek Out V2 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B013KX2R9A

Give it a review (positive or negative....but hopefully positive) and there will be something in it for you down the road

Looking forward to your impressions.

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Re: Thoughts or impressions of the Geek Out V2
« Reply #149 on: September 02, 2015, 10:12:40 PM »
You'd better fix that case before selling on Amazon.

While (most of) us - Audiophools - focus on sound quality over look, it is clear that you will hear complaint from the Amazon users - expecting something similar to what's on the picture - when they get their hands on the rough 3D printed case...
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