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Re: OMFG. Apple is fucking ghey. (and the nature of Political Correctness)
« Reply #80 on: March 03, 2015, 04:32:13 PM »

Oh, Deep Funk, you have me "banged to rights" there. Caught in the act. Shamed and named (except you didn't know it was me!). I have lived here for ten years, and I still do not speak the local language. 

That is not something that happened by intention at all, quite the opposite. It is a combination of the fact that it is so easy to get by here in English, and a mental block that I could not demolish aged ten, let alone fifty years later. It's easy to get by, but life would be so much better if I were not linguistically challenged.

The language issue is a bit more complex. When the host country or host region (think of the Dutch "Randstad") tolerates multiple languages and even adopts other languages the "learning the language requirement" is less necessary. In Amsterdam you can work and live without ever learning the language yet without knowing or understanding Dutch you miss out on many things.

I am fairly sure the same can be observed in certain parts of India and China. Usually the multiple language regions are also the important trade regions with harbours and financial service providers. There is also the factor that English is the one of the major global trade languages. We can thank the old British Empire and current British Commonwealth for this factor.

For myself I will always try to adapt by at least learning the basic language. The result is rewarding. As a Dutch school kid I spoke French with the locals in Belgium and I was able to find out many things the guides could not tell me. My French was not great but the locals liked that I made the effort and good company usually follows. 
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Re: OMFG. Apple is fucking ghey. (and the nature of Political Correctness)
« Reply #81 on: March 03, 2015, 05:00:31 PM »

Dutch is awesome, especially for English speakers. Probably the closest language to English. Comes in handy because a lot of DVD / Bluray rips are dubbed in Dutch. I watched Disney's Treasure Planet in Dutch. Even after a little exposure, most English speakers kind of go "how the fuck did I understand that?"
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Re: OMFG. Apple is fucking ghey. (and the nature of Political Correctness)
« Reply #82 on: March 03, 2015, 05:15:03 PM »

Similar experience with Italian and Spanish.
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Re: OMFG. Apple is fucking ghey. (and the nature of Political Correctness)
« Reply #83 on: March 03, 2015, 07:02:32 PM »

Actually, I have also lived here, and Persians refer to Jewish folks as "Kalimi" if they are Persian Jewish. And yes, the rest are just referred to as "Jews". I never found either side to take issue with how they referred to each other.

Well, I don't see them strangle each other here. But I do tend to hear "Jew" from Persians and "Persian" from Jewish people when they point people out. It's a kind subtle thing - I mean I myself like to know if an ethnic Chinese person is from the mainland or has family members in the CPC. In fact, I've just been reminded of the Purim festival and the story of how OJNeg's ancient Persian ancestor, Haman, planned to destroy all Jews.
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