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Author Topic: Alpha Dog Prime - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements  (Read 16285 times)

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No_One411

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Re: Alpha Dog Primes - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2015, 01:22:13 AM »
Quote from: Boner Stabone on February 05, 2015, 12:54:35 AM
Dude. OMFG! What up with that distortion mang? You kidding me. Purrin, I'm surprised you not calling this out as a stinking piece of shit.

??

Because, all things considered, they don't sound absolutely terrible.

The issue here is:
Bad valuation, and too many things gone wrong for a headphone that cost this much.

They can't be absolute trash. Look at how much praise these have received otherwise.
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Re: Alpha Dog Primes - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2015, 04:10:58 AM »
Hi,

Marv let me listen to these and compare with Luis' headphones. I don't know what these headphones are called. The purple ones are gorgeous and beautiful. They are comfortable with the pads, but they sound incorrect to me. It's hard for me to say because I don't know how to describe sound. No bass. It doesn't feel complete. Also the sound comes from the top of my head. It's not surround sound. It comes from one spot.

With Luis' headphone, it sounds more surround sound and more balanced in terms on tone.

Sorry I can't say more!

Julie
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Re: Alpha Dog Primes - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2015, 04:22:39 AM »
Quote from: Boner Stabone on February 05, 2015, 12:54:35 AM
Dude. OMFG! What up with that distortion mang? You kidding me. Purrin, I'm surprised you not calling this out as a stinking piece of shit.

Hmmm. Compared with Luis Paradox. (Paradox seems the better comparison instead of the Slants because it appears both of these headphones aim for a neutral sound). Paradox wins easily. Honestly, I wouldn't use the Alpha Dog Primes. There's something wrong with it. As Julie pointed out, I just realized something is really wrong with the staging. It's literally inside my head - actually a bit behind my ears and toward the top of my skull. The mid-bass punch and feeling of fullness is very lacking. It's just disturbing to listen to.

One more thing I want to add. The ADP's lack a certain crispness - suddenness. Hard to describe. I don't know if this is the result of higher distortion or not. Microdynamics are lacking. Microdetail is also not on the level of the Paradox. On the Talking Heads Naive Melody (the remaster from 8 years ago or so), there's a lot of swirly background ambient stuff going on. This can be heard clearly on the Paradox, but seems missing from the ADP.

This is just one off sucker to figure out. I mean, it isn't horrible, but it's strange. Probably why No_One411 seems just as weirded out by it as I am.
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Re: Alpha Dog Primes - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2015, 05:06:10 AM »
Quote from: No_One411 on February 05, 2015, 01:22:13 AM
The issue here is:
Bad valuation, and too many things gone wrong for a headphone that cost this much.

What the right price for this then? 200?
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Re: Alpha Dog Primes - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2015, 06:09:18 AM »
These are the ones going on tour?  This'll be interesting.
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Re: Alpha Dog Primes - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2015, 02:11:10 PM »
Sounds like they should have been priced under the alpha dogs. If the Paradox + slants with recabling + custom paint are $700, the plain versions are $525, the alpha dog is priced at $600, and the HD600/650/K7XX are priced under $300, these should be $400 pirate price. $300 for sound + $100 for pretty cups.

That much midrange distortion is embarrassing. Bill-ps modded esw10s don't have that much.
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Re: Alpha Dog Primes - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2015, 04:19:59 AM »
Quote from: zerodeefex on February 05, 2015, 02:11:10 PM
Sounds like they should have been priced under the alpha dogs. If the Paradox + slants with recabling + custom paint are $700, the plain versions are $525, the alpha dog is priced at $600, and the HD600/650/K7XX are priced under $300, these should be $400 pirate price. $300 for sound + $100 for pretty cups.


The HD600/650/K7XX are under $300 only in the US. Everywhere else in the world this tier of headphones cost more in the region of $400-500.

With that in mind, and having heard the Alpha Primes, I'd happily pay $600 for them. The measurements might be off but subjectively they sounded pretty good (albeit not $1000 good).

Perhaps Dan should have branded them the Mad Dog Primes and sold them as such because that's what they sound like to me.
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Re: Alpha Dog Primes - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2015, 05:52:22 AM »
I don't want to look like a tube n00b boob, but what's the amp in the purrin pic?
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Re: Alpha Dog Primes - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2015, 06:42:20 AM »
Quote from: Schopenhauer on February 06, 2015, 05:52:22 AM
I don't want to look like a tube n00b boob, but what's the amp in the purrin pic?

You are looking at the amazingly beautiful EC Zana Deux.
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Re: Alpha Dog Primes - Stream of Consciousness and Eventual Measurements
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2015, 08:07:49 AM »
Quote from: hucifer on February 06, 2015, 04:19:59 AM
The HD600/650/K7XX are under $300 only in the US. Everywhere else in the world this tier of headphones cost more in the region of $400-500.

Hum. no

HD600/650 are priced between 250 and 300€ including VAT here. without VAT and at the current Euro to Dollars conversion rate , that puts thos headphone way under 400/500$ ;) .  K7XX is only for Massdrop if I'm not wrong ;)

The HD800 is relatively easy to find new at less than 1000€ (inc.VAT) in EU. 
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