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Re: CSDs for four different iterations of LCD3 - from most veiled to least veiled
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2013, 04:11:06 PM »
Ah, alright.  Thanks!
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Re: CSDs for four different iterations of LCD3 - from most veiled to least veiled
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2013, 04:58:48 PM »
The veil has nothing to do w/ bass presence.  The TH900 and other bass heavy phones like it are not veiled.  There are also bass light/neutral phones that are veiled like a HD555.  Just listen to a TH900 and a veiled LCD3 next to each other and it's obvious.
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Re: CSDs for four different iterations of LCD3 - from most veiled to least veiled
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2013, 05:07:44 PM »
I was trying to correlate the differences I have heard which predominantly relate to bass. I suspect that I have not heard a pair that is obviously veiled and have only heard the TH900 at meets. I am toying with taking my LCDs along to RMAF so that I can compare them to a stock pair , I don't have the pelican case but may have to pick one up
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Re: CSDs for four different iterations of LCD3 - from most veiled to least veiled
« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2013, 08:16:27 PM »
Quote from: dBel84 on September 29, 2013, 03:14:21 PM
I have always liked my LCD3 ( but they are not stock ) and have been tweaking even more and I now think they are truly excellent. I had mentioned to MF that I thought they would benefit from a pad similar to the TakeT H2 and after some initial experimenting, made a few changes to the pads to emulate the same concept. You basically break the seal at the front and lower end of the pads. I had previously used a fat drinking straw as proof of principle and finally just used a waxed thread and stitched it down. This opens up the soundstage dramatically, removes the "ear suction" effect, and tempers the bass intensity without losing the presence and layering.

One thing I've learned from the Hifiman pad modding process and subsequent measurements from Marv, is that breaking the seal between pads and cups really messes with the low ~ sub-bass (much more drastic roll-off and higher harmonic distortion). Of course the benefits are like what you say, opening up the soundstage.
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Re: CSDs for four different iterations of LCD3 - from most veiled to least veiled
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2013, 01:36:40 AM »
Edit: Placeholder while troubleshooting.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2013, 02:09:25 AM by Elysian »
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Re: CSDs for four different iterations of LCD3 - from most veiled to least veiled
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2013, 02:42:26 AM »
Was it confirmed that upcoming closed model from Audeze is a closed LCD2?
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Re: CSDs for four different iterations of LCD3 - from most veiled to least veiled
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2013, 10:48:24 AM »
Quote from: TMRaven on September 30, 2013, 02:42:26 AM
Was it confirmed that upcoming closed model from Audeze is a closed LCD2?

No, I probably should have just written a closed model. 

I don't think they would bring a closed model into the line up above or equal the 3 though, so that's why I made the assumption it would be a 2-ish closed model.
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Re: CSDs for four different iterations of LCD3 - from most veiled to least veiled
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2013, 12:58:37 PM »
Hopefully it's a little different from the LCD2 but not quite LCD3 performance in Audeze's eye.  I want a slightly more U-shaped LCD2, but not have to break the bank and pay 2k aka LCD3.
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Re: CSDs for four different iterations of LCD3 - from most veiled to least veiled
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2013, 06:02:46 AM »
Well, 3 days after receiving my repaired LCD3s back, the right channel stopped working outright... it was working perfectly and then cut out entirely while I was listening to music. I've never had this kind of bad luck with electronics before. This was a really good sounding pair too :)p18
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Re: CSDs for four different iterations of LCD3 - from most veiled to least veiled
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2013, 06:04:39 AM »
Quote from: Elysian on October 01, 2013, 06:02:46 AM
Well, 3 days after receiving my repaired LCD3s back, the right channel stopped working outright... it was working perfectly and then cut out entirely. I've never had this kind of bad luck with electronics before :)p18

I don't care if a company has fantastic customer service or warranty, if their $2000 product can't stop failing, I ain't touching nothing with a 10-ft pole.
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