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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2014, 04:44:01 PM »

Worst piece of gear factoring in price/reputation was this:



Albert von Schweikert’s $140k seven-driver, ribbon/cone hybrid VR100 XS, paired with two of Albert’s Shockwave subwoofers and bi-amped by Kronzilla tubes on top and Channel Islands Class D on the subs TAS considered them best in show contenders.  They punctured my eardrums at like 70dB



Worst component I've ever owned in my system was a Devialet 120.  Flat when omitting, shrill beyond anything I've heard.  (especially when paired with ceramic drivers.)  Imagine all the GS-X's perceived flaws magnified 5x.




Original meridian explorer suffered from the opposite kind of issue.  Mushy sound, wooly bass, it was like listening to music submerged in a vat of jello.



Most disappointing headphone/amp combo was a pair of HE60's I bought from Spritzer that he did some kind of dustcover mod and retermination on.  I'm not incriminating the headphone itself as it was probably the mods that rendered the highs piercing and shrill and the rest of the sound very anemic, save for the dynamic-like punch.  Sold both headphones and amp to blue, even though he knew what I thought of them.  He sold them both too.


Ultrasone Pro 900. It was a while back and its almost beating a dead horse at this point, but man were these bad.  No cyclical love/hate cycle can change this headphone from feeling like an anechoic chamber that slowly sucks your ability to hear into the walls while you listen to alternately dead and shrill EDM as that's the only kind of music anyone has ever claimed these can sound passable with.


I think anything that uses as many drivers as those speakers probably will mostly sound like shit. I tend to find simple 2-way/3-way designs sound much better in my experience.

Anyhoo,  only thing on my mind so far is....

Akg 240 studio- probably worst of the 240 series. Overly warm, too much midbadss, veil warm midrange, treble wasn't too dark but the peircing was highly masked by it's bloated midbass.

Beyer dt48a- was so excited to hear these since I loved older studio headphones but...was extremely disappointed. Very dark, clear yet very shelved/scooped midrange and bass response was like gone from 500hz downward. Never recommend paying a premium price they usually go for. Not worth it

Pioneer sx1250 - while  these legendary recievers are pretty to look at and very well built, my experience with one is they're very shrill sounding and can be grainy. I did not like it and for the premium big bucks they went for and still go today is not worth it. Spen d your money on good pair of separates instead.

If I think of more I list them but that's for now.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #61 on: November 22, 2014, 06:03:26 PM »

Goldenear Triton 2 - My buddy's father co-founded the company with Sandy Gross and offered me dealer pricing. I was so excited until I went to audition them and shut my mouth. They were worse than Energy RC-70s paired with a shitty Klipsch sub for both HT and music.

Thank you!!!! What is it with Sandy Gross' companies and slobbering audio press? Why do his lousy speakers get them drooling like a $100K Magico? How is it that they are continually allowed to print bold faced lies in terms of FR? The hype train that Def Tech used to get when Gross was in charge and now GE gets is unbelievable.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #62 on: November 22, 2014, 06:32:50 PM »

One I forgot about when making my original list of five:

Beyer T50p. A really strange listening experience. Focus on the bass, the bass is really good for a small, closed on-ear. Focus on the midrange, midrange is good. Focus on the treble, treble is really good. Zoom out and listen to music ... What in heaven's name is going on here? Completely incoherent. Teeny and unstable soundstage. Big orchestral and choral works are smeared and anything that's not right in your face (e.g., the harpsichord in the first movement of Brandenburg 5) is MIA.

A lot of these issues were addressed in the T51p, but ... wow.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #63 on: November 22, 2014, 07:34:58 PM »

I'll update this list as I/if I think of more items either to add or replace existing items. Do note that my experience with truly terrible or disappointing gear likely isn't as exhaustive as what others have experienced.

1. Sennheiser Momentum "Over-Ear" - Probably the weirdest headphone I've ever tried. Too large for on-ear, too small for over-ear. Maybe it would sound OK if it fit one way or the other and not somewhere in-between, but I just thought it sounded off. Very strange. Just could not make sense of it one way or the other.

2. Sony MDR-1R - Comfortable and look nice, sure, but the pair I received sounded like garbage out of the box. Super phat bass, but yet still lacked extension, large upper-mid bump followed by a large treble recession and upper-treble bump. Something like that. It sounds a lot better with mods, but I couldn't even stand them stock.

3. FA-003/HM5 - The particular HM5 pair I received just sounded weird and not good to my ears. Weird bass, harsh treble, very strange soundstage and overall presentation. Maybe I got a particular bad one, because I know these have generally been well-received. Even after extensive mods I could not get these sounding great. I was fairly disappointed. I gave them to a friend once I got them to a slightly better state (IMO).

4. SoundMAGIC HP100 - I got this under HF impressions that it was a relatively neutral, fairly budget headphone (already made a mistake there). WRONG on the neutral part. Phat, gross bass, recessed-mids and/or low-treble, uneven, artificial treble (but at least it wasn't too harsh sounding, I guess?). In fact, I was so disappointed with this, that I immediately returned it to Amazon and was compelled to write a review for it. I had a commenter claim I was wrong and linked to a measurement graph...which actually proved my point, but the guy just couldn't be bothered to read the scale of the graph.

5. Original attempt at modding the Monoprice 8323 - This is one of those situations where I got so wrapped up in modding something that my ears started to adjust to the bad sound. Made the mistake of not doing enough side-by-side comparisons. Once I got it back after Marv measured it, it just did not sound right. I felt pretty stupid. Unfortunate because the 8323 can actually sound good, I just modded it poorly (accidentally plugged the vent holes in the cups, main problem). Lesson learned!
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #64 on: November 23, 2014, 12:20:33 AM »

BONUS:

Senn HD700 - Having owned the 580, 600, 650, and 800 at various times, I figured the 700 would be right up my alley. I figured wrong.
What did you think of the comfort?
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #65 on: November 23, 2014, 12:55:44 AM »

What did you think of the comfort?
its almost HD800 levels of comfy

until you play music through it that is
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #66 on: November 23, 2014, 01:03:53 AM »

If they nailed the HD600 sound in the HD700 form factor they could charge $500-700 for them. Super comfy.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #67 on: November 23, 2014, 02:04:59 AM »

If they nailed the HD600 sound in the HD700 form factor they could charge $500-700 for them. Super comfy.
Agreed!
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #68 on: November 23, 2014, 02:40:38 AM »

If they nailed the HD600 sound in the HD700 form factor they could charge $500-700 for them. Super comfy.

Exactly. My buddy in Bangalore bought the 700 (as you know its expensive here) and offered it for a listen. After 10 minutes, I gave it back to him with an exaggerated "Nice' (did not have the heart to tell him anything else). In turn I gave him my 800. The guy was speechless.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #69 on: November 23, 2014, 06:02:48 AM »

I rather enjoyed GS1000 and PS1000, albeit with mods (TP over drivers) to tame treble. GS1000 was nice for its flat mids.

Thats whats weird, they are obviously inaccurate to my ears, but they are... fun I guess? They make me happy when I listen to them, so I guess that's a good thing.

Edit: I guess they provide a nice counterpoint to the HD800, which I primarily listen to.
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