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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #190 on: May 15, 2015, 12:27:14 AM »

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Over the last 50 years I've heard a lot of bad, very bad, most of it I have forgotten, because it was bad! I will probably get into trouble for posting here, so forgive me for not mentioning a lot of the obvious.
1. Monster Cable speaker wire, being someone with an electronics background, I was very hard to sell on the idea that speaker cable (given sufficient current capabilities) could possibly make any difference, but a friend lent me his Monster Cable to replace my 14 gauge with the assurance that I would hear a difference, and I was completely blown away by the result. It sounded worse, much worse! The bass was tubby and undefined, and all the detail had vanished. The sound field collapsed entirely. So I was forced to research, and do a lot of listening, and finally come up with my own cables that I use to this day (this was sometime in the early 80's).
2 & 3. The worst "A" rated speakers I ever heard were the Infinity Betas (the high frequencies are so harsh that they give me headaches after only a few minutes listening) until I heard the Watts, which have the same issue only to a greater extreme, actually I have a problem with a lot of High-end gear that mistakes over emphasized high frequencies for greater detail.
4. Most car audio, especially supposed high end rigs, or factory set ups.
5. Having just dipped my toe into this new world of high-end headphones, IEMs, DACs and Amps and this complex market of "objective" vs "subjective" sound, I am sure the worst is yet to come.

It took me about 30 seconds to figure out the significance of your username, which is kinda embarrassing for someone who started playing at age 12. Tuned down a whole step, eh? Why would one do that?
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #191 on: May 15, 2015, 05:11:46 AM »

In no particular order...

Grado RS1e. Everything just sounded completely wrong for me.

HD700. I have no idea how Sennheiser put this in between the HD6X0 and HD800. The pair I had had no bass at all.

Westone W60. No soundstage and extremely boomy and unresolving for me. Slow.

Closed EL-8. I felt the upper-midrange and treble were just done completely wrong. It was so distracting that I couldn't have any focus on other spectrum.

Lenovo computer headphone jack: this might be the reason that I started this whole journey.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #192 on: May 15, 2015, 05:13:23 AM »

Lenovo computer headphone jack: this might be the reason that I started this whole journey.

So it definitely was the Lenovo... when I tried out he Hammo
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #193 on: May 15, 2015, 05:21:00 AM »

So it definitely was the Lenovo... when I tried out he Hammo


After some years when my Lenovo dies I'll do an anatomy on it to see what's wrong. Seriously this is so fucking wrong.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #194 on: May 15, 2015, 07:27:55 AM »

Think it's about time I updated this...

In no particular order:

Audez'e LCD-1: Stock HD800? Nope. Grados? Nuh-uh. These take the cake. The cold, shrill, piercing, shrieking cake. Think TH600, tilted up, plus peaks, without a single iota of warmth or bass emphasis.

Sony MDR-SA3000: Lowest fidelity known to man. Grainier than fucking sandpaper. Bass and treble have been lopped off with a machete. Distant, cupped presentation only makes it worse.

Pioneer SE-700: Place a headphone inside a C clamp and attach it to your head, and you have the general idea. No padding, no bass, no treble. Headstage has been smashed into skull with a jackhammer. Less efficient than the HE-6.

Bang & Olufsen U70: Just tried this one again yesterday. Nothing but huge low quality bass. Ortho Beats. Except I'd take the old Studios over these based on sound alone. Factor in comfort, and I'd rather be deaf.

BEYER DT48S 5 ohm: PFFFFF. This? Are you fucking kidding me? THIS is the crown jewel of vintage DT48s? Oh, wait, nevermind. This is the exact headphone you want if you listen to nothing but transients. Makes perfect sense.

I am grateful Tyll measured the DT48S-5. That is a serious WTF result...
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #195 on: May 15, 2015, 09:40:46 AM »

In no particular order:

-Audeze EL-8 open&closed back: See know reason to buy these. Not awful in a particular way but the sound balance just makes me think WTF? (even more than HD700s).

-Burmester speakers with some really bright sounding amp/dac chain: Burmester speakers are known to be having aggressive, bright treble but with the wrong pairing, it felt like someone was scratching my ears with a nail (okay, maybe not that bad but the worst treble I've ever heard).

-Fake Beats headphones that my friends have: No need to explain.

-Sennheiser Momentums: Bass is too loose, bloomy, and uncontrolled. Mids are artificial and almost plasticky. Highs are... where are they? Strange soundstage as well.

-AKG headphones in general (except for the K450) (Sorry to AKG fans out there): Bass: loose, uncontrolled Mids: artificial, plasticky and this made string instruments in particular terrible Highs: also artificial sounding, same thing happened with mids
Soundstage with the K550 and the K701: It's so weird. Never heard anything like it and I don't think I ever will. The soundstage goes sideways. I mean left and right, and that, really deep. It's like having sound come through two long pipes on each sides of your head. Elsewhere than that, it's bad.
And you know what, the K812 isn't all that bad but the price makes me cringe.

-Naim DAC-V1 (I think that's what it's called): simply put, the worst dac/amp I've ever listened to.

Thank you for reading me whining about some bad equipment.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #196 on: May 22, 2015, 07:44:23 PM »

Bose Acoustimas Speakers - Boom tiss, boom tiss, boom tiss, 'nuf said

Grado SR-125 headphones - I did all sorts of things to get them to sound less grainy and peaky in the treble, only to learn years later, that is their signature.

Etymotic  ER4  -  I did not dislike them so much for the sound (although I could not get any realistic sounding bass out of them)  but for the torturous, painful, deep insertion necessary to get the intended sound.

Kingrex UC192 and power supply - I tried it on a few decent dacs and always came away saying why is it so analytical, bright and thin. 

Ack Dac- As much as the idea of NOS appealed to me, I never could get past the crunch in the upper end.  I suppose a lot may have been with the regular use of the Grado SR-125s above, but even in the main speaker system it did not deliver.  Perhaps it was the early days of tryng to wring greatness out the old Philips chips.

SPL Phonitor - Looks great, sounds relatively boring on a variety of cans, especially given its price.  Perhaps it only synergized with a chosen few.

Oops - Looks like I can't kount.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #197 on: May 22, 2015, 08:38:06 PM »

Confession: I drool over pics of the SPL Phonitor when alone in the night. Never been near one in the flesh, though.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #198 on: May 23, 2015, 02:07:01 AM »

I might be struggling here, in part because I rather praise the good than criticise what I consider, er, not good.

Audeze LCD 2 and 3 - I got very excited about these...twice as you can see. HF is partly to blame, but I accept 98% for the rest. I thought that the amp was the problem (all that praise in reviews, so it must be something wrong with the rest of my rig, right?). I tried them with three amps - a Violectric V200 (hey, this amp is not bad at all IMHO), DAC/amp separates from Audio GD's top end and a Lehmann HP amp. I had some very nice pure silver cables made for them, and that did add some sparkle and speed, but...
What can I say? Firstly, they sound muddy across the frequency range (although through the veil I think they had an extended FR). Secondly, they seem to squash dynamics a tad and suck a bit of life out of music, especially rock and dance. Poor PRaT? The bass (lower and upper) is fulsome but without enough zing or definition. The highs are there, but they are veiled without much sparkle. Thirdly, these cans are very uncomfortable - heavy, hot and awkward to wear. Lastly, from memory and it was a while ago, I think the sound staging and channel separation were just average.


I'd probably get flamed for such heresy on HF :P

You're not alone in not finding the LCD2/3 not being your cup of tea.

If I have not Hifimans (for orthos)  or the HD650 I'd probably would have been happy. But I can't get over the heavy bottom sound no matter how good it is...they just lack the uppers that complete my listening experience.
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Re: Five Worst Pieces of Audio Gear You've Heard (Members Only)
« Reply #199 on: May 23, 2015, 05:03:05 AM »

HD650. The most boring sounding headphones I've ever heard that are worth discussing. Rolled off bass and treble was as dull as a butterknife. If I never hear them again I'll be okay with that.
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