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OPPO PM-2 Mods and Measurements
« on: October 19, 2014, 10:15:54 PM »


Update: Latest mods/tweaks and measurements as of 4/2/15: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,1841.msg61995.html#msg61995

I thought the PM-2 had several disappointing aspects, so I decided to see if I could improve it with mods. Stock, it has good bass and mids, but treble has issues. Either too depressed in some spots or too peaky and rough in others. Bass was clean and fairly neutral but lacked balls. Not sure what it is, but some headphones that measure fairly flat in the bass sound powerful, and some do not, assuming both are well driven from big boy amps. The PM-2 falls into the latter category, IMO. So, it kind of had this soft, almost too laid-back, yet also slightly too rough sound. Yeah, no thanks. I thought the HD600/650, especially damped, made it sound silly. The PM-1 had a better response curve but was overall too dark and constricting sounding. I liked it overall despite this, but it was kinda boring.

You know what comes next. I replaced all the internal damping with my trusty open-cell foam I got from Foam Factory! And I mean I removed all internal damping, including the stuff glued to the back of the driver. I replaced it with a 3-layer damping stack sandwich party of the following stuff:

On bottom, closest to exterior cup grill, a layer of this (1/4"): http://www.foambymail.com/CR/solid-charcoal-regular-foam.html

On top of that, 1/4" layer of this: http://www.foambymail.com/P/poly-foam.html

Lastly, a layer of this on top of all that (i.e. closest to back of driver): http://www.foambymail.com/CF0-125LF/1-8-inch-charcoal-regular-foam.html

It does take some force to get it closed with all this shit in it. If you do not have hands or arms, I do not recommend you attempt this mod.

I also closed up portions of the cup grill with Creatology adhesive foam squares. Basically, I'm just trying to reduce the amount of cup venting. I left the side of the cups pointing to my face more "open" inside and the back side more "closed" with the foam squares. This will make more sense with pictures. I also put a lot of drawer liner inside the cups.

To make this all work right, I purchased the OPPO velour ear pads. Nothing else done on the front side. Just pooped the velour pads all up on there. I'm not sure how the PM-2, with its slightly different internal damping vs. the PM-1, would sound with just swapping to velour pads. I don't think I like the stock PM-2 pads all that much.

How does it sound? Well, the first thing I noticed was extra bass. It's a touch more boomy and perhaps not quite as clean as before (can't do a direct comparison), but still pretty damn good. Gives a better sense of power and kick. Not so much limp-dickage as before. PM-2 is no longer pre-pubescent sounding. I think I like a bit of a tasteful, clean bass-bump on most headphones. Treble also sounds considerably cleaner and smoother. Moar and better detail, but smoother. Upper-mids and lower-treble seem to be better integrated and less recessed. Tone and smoothness reminds me more of the PM-1, but without the constricting soundstage and noticeably dark treble. I'm enjoying it.

Is it perfect now? Well, no, but IMO a big step up in balance and refinement over either the PM-1 or 2. The best part is I no longer listen to these and just feel like something isn't right or that something is missing. I think these dri vers have a lot of potential but are held back by the enclosure design and stock damping. Someone that has more patience and audio knowledge than me could certainly get something great out of these.

Attached measurement 1: This is the stock PM-2 with stock pads after I stretched it out for a wider, less clampy fit. Do note that stretching them out for less clamp did affect measurements, and I do believe I've posted these results before.

Attached measurement 2: Modded PM-2 with velour ear pads. The distortion characteristics in the low-bass might be a bit weirder and worse, but I'm not too concerned about that. Didn't save it, but the impulse response on this looked great. CSDs still good as always, but didn't save that either. You can find my later PM-1 measurements here for some level of comparison (also velour pads): http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,1590.msg44503.html#msg44503

Anyway, I must say I am happy with the measured results, especially since I did this all by ear.

The first mod screenshot shows the cups mods with some of the exterior grill portion blocked with foam squares (this is the left cup, so the foam is concentrated towards the rear of the head). You'll also notice a bunch of drawer liner. The second screenshot shows my foam damping sandwich. Then a picture of it inside the cup (thin foam on top). Lastly is a shot of the driver's naked backside. Please don't attempt dangus insertion.
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Re: OPPO PM-2 Mods and Measurements
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2014, 10:30:29 PM »

Wow, that must sound almost like a regular closed-back headphone (with all the material stuffed inside), doesn't it?  p:8
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Re: OPPO PM-2 Mods and Measurements
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2014, 10:35:04 PM »

Not really, no. The foam is not as dense as you'd think. OTOH, the OPPO headphones aren't super open sounding to begin with. Doesn't sound closed, though.
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Re: OPPO PM-2 Mods and Measurements
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2014, 10:40:36 PM »

Looks very interesting though, I really like it! Thank you for posting it...

Have you noticed anything about the enclosure (or maybe even driver itself) so far that would be worth talking about? It doesn't look very similar to Audeze or Hifiman... And I am not sure whether this is a good or rather bad thing. Would be interested to learn something about it.
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Re: OPPO PM-2 Mods and Measurements
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2014, 10:42:59 PM »

Hmmm...enclosure is convenient for mods? Haha. It is more similar to something like the HD598, I guess...Not quite as open. Build quality is good, plastics aren't too thin, but not super thick either. This driver needs damping and not too open of an enclosure.
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Re: OPPO PM-2 Mods and Measurements
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2014, 01:55:41 AM »

I might be getting the PM-1 on the Canadian tour. Would similar mods apply?
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Re: OPPO PM-2 Mods and Measurements
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2014, 02:12:07 AM »

As I understand it, the PM-1 and PM-2 should be identical except for slight internal damping variations, assuming the same pads are used. Mods should apply to either but do require you to take off any glued damping material behind the driver. Stretching out the headband for a lighter fit and using velour pads on either PM-1 or 2 probably goes a long way, if your tastes are like mine.
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Re: OPPO PM-2 Mods and Measurements
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2014, 03:42:53 AM »

Now that's a nice improvement!, do they remain easy to drive?
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Re: OPPO PM-2 Mods and Measurements
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2014, 05:59:14 AM »

Seems like it. Gets loud, not ear-splitting, from my Galaxy S5 on material that isn't as compressed and loud as most modern music. Music with normal, crappy DR and loudness gets very loud before full volume. Sounds good from the phone. I think the extra bass helps it overcome sounding too weak from lesser sources, which was one thing I had a problem with stock.

Edit: If you occasionally find the treble a bit too sharp in this config, that 1/8" foam works well if inserted in the ear pad opening, sandwiched between the felt donut and protective mesh (on velour or original PM-1 leather pads). One or two circular layers. Just makes them sound more laid-back overall, not a huge measurable change except slightly more rounded treble response around 10Khz and a slightly larger dip in that area, but nothing that sounds off.
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Re: OPPO PM-2 Mods and Measurements
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2014, 10:22:10 PM »

Quick update. Changed the internal damping config to look like the attached pic (sweet paint skillz), still have drawer liner covering everything. This helped focus the sound a bit and clean up the bass (in a good way - less boom and more punch) at the expense of making them sound a bit less open. Still not claustrophobic like the PM-1.

As for attached measurements, I also put a couple discs of that 1/8" foam in front of each driver to darken the sound a bit for my overly sensitive ears. So, while this measured response looks more like the PM-1 with velour pads that I measured, it's still not quite as laid-back and packs more of a punch. Sounds noticeably more lively than the PM-1, based on my memory. I'll need to grab measurements without those discs in place to see what just the damping changes brought to the table.

Interesting that the distortion in the mids seems to be better now. I'll need to take more measurements to verify if it's actually smoothed out now. The weird bass THD spikes are probably an artifact, as I'm working on a new measurement rig (very early in the experimental stages), and it was rather clean in the bass in terms of distortion.
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