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TMRaven · « **Reply #390 on:** November 23, 2014, 11:04:01 PM »

In the T1's case, its treble is too 'full.'

sszorin · « **Reply #391 on:** November 24, 2014, 12:26:03 AM »

Quote from: TMRaven on November 23, 2014, 11:04:01 PM

In the T1's case, its treble is too 'full.'

A - Yes, but that is the impression from the early production numbers, and then it became a mantra. T1s in that numbers range had an over-enthusiastic treble. About around number between 3900 and 3950 things improved, Beyerdynamic tinkered with T1's driver, due to practically universal reaction of those who bought or reviewed T1, and the treble peak was lowered.
B - The treble might be "too full" but it can be dealt with as long as it is also not screechy /distorted/ringing. T1 has pretty clean treble, notwithstanding its energy, cleaner than the treble of its biggest competitors HD800 and K812 [I have not heard K812 but the comments from the audiophile world are practically universal in describing K812 treble as problematic]. That's a big plus for T1 as the upper midrange + treble presentation is the most problematic part of the sound of all top of the line electrodynamic headphones.
C - Still, better headphones with a too full treble than headphones with 'rolled off'/missing treble, because out of line treble can be damped by either modding or/and by matching an amp with headphones. A good tube/valve or good hybrid amp will file high frequencies edge off and soften them as well. You might not believe it but the results can be convincing. On the other hand once a good portion of treble is missing there is no trick or spell in any book of audio witchcraft to help bring it back from dead. You can give a prayer of thanks for "too full treble" headphones.
A better upper midrange and treble of T1, compared to HD800, makes T1 sound more alive and having more convincing and more natural sounding tonality. On well mastered tracks T's upper midrange + treble sounds closer to perfect than the one of other top electrodynamics.
P.S. Reportedly the recent HD800s have an improved treble, I have not heard one of them but if it is true then 'kudos' to Sennheiser.

AustinValentine · « **Reply #392 on:** November 24, 2014, 12:44:24 AM »

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Quote from: Tyll Hertsens on November 20, 2014, 03:17:12 PM

The Meelectronics Air-fi Matrix2 AF62 has a big name but a low $89 price. They sound amazingly good for the price...hell, they're pretty damned good relative to a lot of the wireless cans. http://www.meelec.com/product_p/hp-af62-cf-mee.htm

Got them in today - these really do sound great for their price. (Bought them for $62 "like new" from Amazon Marketplace.) They also don't sound that much different wired than they over bluetooth...which is good thing too, because the 3.5mm jack is in the *back* of their left cup. I know that MEE did it so that the cable wouldn't interfere with the buttons on the bottom. Still, it's completely odd.

The carbon fiber print is (a little) nicer in person than in the pictures. It also has a purpose: The outside of the headband and cups are fabric covered with padding and the CF print helps with scratching. The headphone is mostly a matte plastic. The plastic seems durable enough. The case that it comes with is pretty nice and should protect more than adequately. It's not V-Moda case nice, but it's not a shit vinyl pouch either.

They have solid isolation too. So much so that I didn't hear a delivery I was waiting for when the parcel post rang. I didn't have any difficulty getting my ears into the cups/pads. That being said, I have small ears. I'd expect that fit will be a slight difficulty if you have larger ears. No Alan Greenspans allowed.

No detailed comments on the sound yet, because I've only had around 6 hours of listening on them so far - all of it while working on other projects. I think I hear a slightly elevated midbass, (maybe) slightly forward upper mids, and something a little bit artificial up in the treble. None of these are glaringly wrong. It's a really pleasant listen. Good deal!

Sorrodje · « **Reply #393 on:** November 24, 2014, 08:12:51 AM »

Quote from: TMRaven on November 23, 2014, 11:04:01 PM

In the T1's case, its treble is too 'full.'

Not full IMO ... peaky is the word that comes in my mind.. Awful 8 khz treble peak precisely. Mine had the a S/N around 11000 if I remember well All beyer I tried seem to have such a treble I fully dislike . those peaks don't bother some of my friends but definitely bother me .

T1's measurements they're not so clean either... http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicT1.pdf

I had the T1 during 3 month and trust me or not I tried to like it. But I couldn't. it's sold to someone who seems reall happy with. Happy End story.

Sorrodje · « **Reply #394 on:** November 26, 2014, 09:02:20 AM »

Anyone like the Shure SE215 there ?

I live with those IEM for my on the go use. It sounds fine for that use. Warm signature but good bass and mids. The treble is definitely grainy but it does not bother me for the music I listen to in transports or when I walk in the streets. Soundstage is Huge for an IEM.

I had an tried many other IEM. Westone UM2, Shure SE535, ATH IM04, Vsonic GR07, Fischer DBA02 and some are better but none did a far better work for my daily use. I even sleep with them. best things I've ever met to isolate from ambient noise. the Cable never failed, THey isolate perfectly. They're delivered with a serious package and they're well built.

Not the best IEM ever but really a serious contender in my personal leaderboard .

Eric_C · « **Reply #395 on:** November 26, 2014, 09:57:25 AM »

I think the SE215 has plenty going for it, but I don't like the sound signature. Too thick for me.

Sorrodje · « **Reply #396 on:** November 26, 2014, 10:40:06 AM »

I wouldn't use a SE215 at home , but outside the thickness does wonder . I realized recently that my tastes was differentsfor Home use and Outside use. I wouldn't liketo have an IEM that sounds like my HD800.

shipsupt · « **Reply #397 on:** November 26, 2014, 12:57:04 PM »

I completely agree with you about home vs. "outside". With a noisy commute via train and tube I very much consider this daily.

That said, I think the Shure IEM sound might be too polarizing to put on the leaderboard.

Sorrodje · « **Reply #398 on:** November 26, 2014, 01:09:43 PM »

Quote from: shipsupt on November 26, 2014, 12:57:04 PM

That said, I think the Shure IEMs sound might be too polarizing to put on the leaderboard.

Oh really ? Here in France , the Shure some sound is generally well regarded and not polarizing. Earsonics IEM or Fitear for example is more prone to debates with fanboys against haters.

I still have a broken pair of SE535 I will maybe send to be reshelled in CIEM... Dunno. I'll probably buy a used pair of Fitear Parterre next saturday.

shipsupt · « **Reply #399 on:** November 26, 2014, 01:44:42 PM »

I won't try and speak for the crew, I'm sure they will weigh in.

I am a 535 fan. It was my #1 until I got customs.

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