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Author Topic: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.  (Read 35808 times)

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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #50 on: July 02, 2014, 09:37:53 AM »

I just noticed there's only a 115V AC adaptor available for the Wyrd. Guess I'm safe from temptation!

It's just a 6V AC wallwart isn't it? I don't think anyone needs to wait if that's the case, a wallwart is not that hard to find.

Don't forget it's an AC to AC adapter, NOT DC. The Wyrd wants 6V AC on it's input. Not sure how common AC to AC adapters are but I am sure someone sells them.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #51 on: July 02, 2014, 10:57:56 AM »

My JKSPDIF doesn't get detected properly when I turn my computer on or resume it from sleep. Windows 8, custom built desktop. Could be a drive issue, and I can't say I'm super duper fond of the unit (gets the job done but is pretty jank), but I'm wondering of the Wyrd would fix these issues...
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #52 on: July 02, 2014, 05:20:19 PM »

Is the Wyrd more or less the same as a Teddy USB http://www.teddypardo.com/powersupplies/teddyusb.html, just cheapter?
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #53 on: July 02, 2014, 05:31:09 PM »

Is the Wyrd more or less the same as a Teddy USB http://www.teddypardo.com/powersupplies/teddyusb.html, just cheapter?

It reclocks the signal as well, although teddy does make good stuff.

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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #54 on: July 02, 2014, 05:35:18 PM »

Yep.

Doesn't seem like they are exactly the same. The Wyrd in Schiit's words:

"Wyrd does two things: it replaces the noisy USB power from your computer with a low-noise linear power supply (no switchers here!) with precision regulators rated at 2.5uV RMS noise. (Or, as Mike Moffat says, “on the 8th day, God called National Semiconductor and told them how to make the best regulator in the world, the LM723."). This is literally 100,000x better than some of the USB ports we’ve measured, which have up to 500mV of high-frequency noise.  It also uses a tightly spec’d crystal oscillator on its own filtered power supply for the USB repeater chip, for best possible stability."

So... it replaces fuchi power with mucho-clean power (and proly moar of it if needed) ala Teddy perhaps (different regulators though... Teddy = LM317 vs Wyrd = LM723)... AND it regenerates the data lines using a 20 ppm clock to replace fuchi data lines with mucho-clean data lines.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #55 on: July 02, 2014, 05:49:30 PM »

Ok. I have good experience with Teddy Pardo, but I guess Ill wait for until Schiit have the adapter I need. For those interested the European 230V AC adapter should be available in about a month according to Schhit.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2014, 07:04:21 PM »

Is the Wyrd more or less the same as a Teddy USB http://www.teddypardo.com/powersupplies/teddyusb.html, just cheapter?

WOW. That's a pricey meatball. Nearly as much as the Bakoon battery.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2014, 09:34:26 PM »

Could not distinguish any differences using the newest model Bricasti and its USB vs with wyrd.  I'll try it out with something cheap like the Modi later.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #58 on: July 04, 2014, 12:02:16 AM »

Mac Mini (w/ Teddy Pardo PSU) > Wyrd > MSB The Analog DAC > Dodd Audio Reference Preamp (Quad matched Tung-sol VT-231 tubes) > Firstwatt F5T > Tekton Design Pendragon Loudspeakers  (All power by PS Audio Powerplant P5 )

Difference was very subtle but noticeable. I would say similar effect of the Empirical Audio Short Block (when it worked..). Tighter, more focused sound with a greater presence. Notes seem to pop more. I was pleasantly surprised that the Wyrd actually made a difference even though I know the MSB USB module is very good. I can only assume that the Mac Mini isn’t the cleanest source especially since the USB ports are all being used.

My speakers are naturally on the warmer side. They have some bass bloom that at times can be a bit much, lacking in overall refinement. It seems like the Wyrd is helping, but this maybe placebo.

PC > JCAT USB Card (w/ Linear PSU) > Wyrd > Bricasti M1 > Super 7 (modded) > HD800 / Paradox Slants

Tested this setup both with and without the JCAT card. With the JCAT in the chain the sound was way too analytical. Things became too digital sounding.. thin and lacking in emotion. I can only guess that this is the effects of too much filtering, re-clocking.  Without the JCAT, difference is subtle but there. Blacker sound.. notes are less rounded and have better definition. There seems to be again, better focus and more clarity.

PC > Wyrd > Hugo > HD800 / Paradox Slants

Difference here was blatantly obvious. Less treble glare, a smoother more fluid sound.

Overall, I would definitely recommend the Wyrd if you are using something not optimized for music playback. I’m talking about anything from a Dell desktop to a Mac Mini. I would especially recommend this if you are using a laptop with a HD. I tried using an old MBP (2007) model that had a 500gb HD, and the differences were stark.

I wouldn’t recommend this if you already have a good source, optimized for music playback. I doubt you would hear any positive results and in some cases negative results if you are using a CAPS, Vortex, etc.

This is Schiit but definitely not poo.
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Re: This is Wyrd! Holy Schiit Batman! Schiit Wyrd Impressions.
« Reply #59 on: July 04, 2014, 01:09:23 AM »

PC > Wyrd > Gungnir > Virtue ONE.3 (130w) > Overnight Sensations MT
                             > UHA-6s mk ii (ADA4627) > UERMs

At first listen, I had the feeling that there was some sort of voodoo magic going on! I couldn't pin point it down at first, but after some A/Bing, I was able to pinpoint down the differences. Notes were a little bit less smeared, I don't think there was any difference in treble stridency or anything with the gungnir, and sometimes I felt like drums and bass hit just a tad bit harder.

I'll give it a try with Christian's NFB-10es2 and odac this weekend. I Can try with the dx90 too, but the drivers are too unreliable for me to want to play music through it. Will also try the Wyrd with my Surface pro 1; there might be more differences since the surface's single USB port probably isn't as clean.

Overall I think the Wyrd is a nice little upgrade for the gungnir at just $100. The effects are subtle, but I think they change the sound enough for it to be worth it.
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