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Re: New CPU and Board Advice?
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2013, 12:04:00 PM »
Quote from: ohhgourami on December 08, 2013, 11:21:44 AM
You can't isolate noise that doesn't get produced. :p

Open case means no restrictions and perfect airflow, which means more cooling without the need for case fans, thus less noise.

GPU produce by far the most noise. Blowers are good for not mixing the hot air back into the case but are damn loud. Other coolers are quieter but traditional cases usually trap the hot air inside for remixing. Open case just makes sense!

I see your point. I've always wanted an open case, but there's just too much animal hair floating around my place. Plus I don't want the cat to think it's a new bed.
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Re: New CPU and Board Advice?
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2013, 04:57:16 PM »
Sorry for being a little hostile, Hans. I just think it's silly these days to play the 'spend $1000-1500 a year to keep myself at top specs' game, buying new near top of the line video cards and CPUs. I used to do this about 10-15 years ago when it really made a huge difference, but modern computers are so fast by default that it's hard to justify the expense. Buying a good video card and CPU every 2-4 years is plenty.
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Re: New CPU and Board Advice?
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2013, 05:43:32 PM »
It's all good! I sometimes forget to ask what people are looking for first before assuming they'll want what I would want. I know everyone approaches their computing needs at least a little bit differently. Lately I've been buying near TOTL GPUs and sticking with the fairly reasonable 2500K. I only end up spending a $200-300 a year to upgrade the GPU once I sell the previous, but that's something I find fun I guess. I'm also all about high framerates, low and consistent frametimes, smooth motion, and not sacrificing image quality for it. Maybe I'll care less down the road, but I'm actually finding it very exciting now that I'm out of school and have a big boy job.
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Re: New CPU and Board Advice?
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2013, 08:43:09 PM »
Marv's CPU and mobo probably give enough performance, but I think the features of 1150 can be well justified (in addition to the ~30% performance increase). He could easily sell what he has now to some kid on craigslists. All he has to do is "bling" that up with some gaudy LEDs in some crap $30 case and sell the CPU and mobo for like $150. I say the wait for Skylake is a bit of a stretch so this isn't a bad time to upgrade.

Then every couple years, just upgrade GPUs. 2560x1600 is high upkeep so he put himself in this position!
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Re: New CPU and Board Advice?
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2013, 10:08:54 PM »
Is Skylake (guessing that's the next desktop core) supposed to be yet more mobility aimed improvements or more actual processing power increase? If it's more mobility crap, I might make the step (to Haswell) myself.

Just read a little about Skylake. Earliest estimates put Skylake Xeons coming out early 2015, more likely mid to late 2015 and Consumer versions will lag by 2-3 months after. Looking like 2016ish for a Skylake chip, and a new motherboard (chipset) will be required due to DDR4. 2 years is a while. I'll have to think about it. Maybe get a Haswell now, and get a Cannonlake (Skylake die shrink to 10nm) in 2017ish.

Reading a bit about Broadwell (Haswell die shrink to 14nm), though. Might wait for that then plan for Cannonlake or something even later. Nevermind, Haswell just came out a few months ago. Broadwell will be late 2014.
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Re: New CPU and Board Advice?
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2013, 10:45:29 PM »
If you're itching for an upgrade, Skylake won't be released until sometime mid to late 2015. We know nothing in regards to it being performance oriented or not. It's obvious that Intel's plans are to make their chips more efficient in order to dominate the mobile market (tablets then phones).

Honestly, whether or not Skylake will be a huge boost in CPU power doesn't matter all that much, but DDR4 and SATA-Express becoming mainstream is a good enough reason for me. For sure hardware should be relatively more expensive for that upgrade so getting Haswell in order to hold off til Haswells successor is a good idea.

It's already been announced that Broadwell won't have any CPU upgrades, only iGPU which will take another huge leap similar to Ivy > Haswell.
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Re: New CPU and Board Advice?
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2013, 11:07:06 PM »
OK. Real quick. CPU and Mobo recommendation. The i5-4670k? Is that a good sweet spot?

I could use moar CPU for faster jpg display, un-raring, or video editing of HD porn.
I could use moar FPS for SWTOR on a 2560 x 1600 display.

Vid card. To SLI or not current GTX670


I'm keeping my case. Silverstone FT02. Already have SSDs, at least for the most often used porn.
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Re: New CPU and Board Advice?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2013, 11:51:57 PM »
Sell gtx 670, resale is still high. Get s single higher end GPU on Newegg open box sale or dell 25% sale when its running.
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Re: New CPU and Board Advice?
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2013, 11:56:39 PM »
I haven't kept up w/ Intel's latest alphabet soup tick-tock clock rock, but make sure you get hyperthreading if you go i5, if possible even.  I recall you had to go up the ladder to have it enabled.  Intel always seems to hold back some juicy feature for the overly cost conscious.  I'm also looking at mobile i7 primarily because my desktop is fine since I built the Eddie current PC and haswell forward has been mobility centric for improvements, and mobile GPUs/Intel HD likes as much CPU as you can give them.  The only real benefit to getting a new CPU I'd say is if you need more powah for desktop graphic/video editing and CAD.  The latest and greatest GPUs from ATI and Nvidia are where I'd dump my CPU money.
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Re: New CPU and Board Advice?
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2013, 03:01:19 AM »
i7 is a must if you do a lot of video editing and un-raring. Desktop i5 don't have hyperthreading, but if you only occasional video edit then an i5 could suffice. The cost of an i7 4770k compared to an i5 4670k isn't much too.

If you want more FPS, might as well sell the GTX 670 then. One powerful single card is almost always better than SLI equivalent.

Yeah keep that case. It's a nice case. I guess you can get higher capacity SSDs for more porn.
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