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Author Topic: JPS Labs Abyss Headphone Impressions - The Real Deal Hands On Experience  (Read 32728 times)

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Sounds like abyss would have been the headphone I always wanted-- too bad it's 5k.

I actually like a recession in the upper mid-lower treble area.  Finesse and speed of a stat with the muscle-bass of a planar magnetic and that tonal balance-- but it's 5k.  :(

I've now spent a little bit more time with them. I'm much closer to saying these are the headphones I've always wanted. Having dangerous thoughts of getting back into headphones (I'm a speaker guy now) and dipping into the HSA account (since the Un-Affordable Care Act will make my current HSA + catastrophic health insurance plan illegal in a few months.)

I know many of us have given JPS Labs a lot of shit, and frankly many of us expected it to sound like shit. But as I told Joe, prove me wrong. I think it's safe to say that he's proven me wrong. I don't think the AB-1266 takes top honors in many technicalities (HD800 is a better plankton extractor, distortion can be a little better, 007/009 have a more relaxed feel and smoother treble, a handful of headphones are more neutral, etc.) but the little things it does well add up to a complete package for me. I certainly believe it belongs in the Pirate's Booty. I'm not quite ready to say it's my favorite so far - mainly because I haven't spent too much time with TOTL headphones lately and need to re-acclimate myself. As Tyll implied in his review, it's one of those things where you don't think about the technicalities - they are "thrown out of the window" and "what really matters is the listening experience."

As to the noise in the mid-treble, the measurements would seem to indicate something there, but honestly I don't hear it with my regular set of test tracks (composed of a good mix of good recordings and many marginal recordings). The DAC I used was the PS Audio PWD2 (upgraded 1) running firmware 2.03 with filter 1. OR5 handed USB to I2S conversion duty. JRiver MC18 was used and all recordings up-sampled in MC to 176 or 192. PC was an earlier Core 2 based MacMini running Windows 7. Amps used were the Cavalli Liquid Gold and Schiit Mjolnir. The DAC hasn't been turned off since I don't know when. Both amps were turned on at 7am in the morning and have been left on all day. The treble peak is audible, the treble seems slightly rough, but these issues were minor to me (I'm probably used to the treble irregularities of my wide-bander speakers, despite super-tweeter help.)

Other tidbit: the frame allows us to swivel the drivers inward. This does change the staging. I angled the drivers in as much as possible. I wore the cups low and forward. The thickest part of the cushion was at the 8 o'clock position. The staging in excellent. Good center focus. Not as wide as HD800, which I do think is a bit on the diffuse side. Very open. An openness that goes on and on and on.

ultrabike came by. I'm sure he will add his 2 cents.
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More measurements
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CSDs (regular ol' visualization)

Interesting how the treble ringing is a shift from the peak. Subjectively earlier (before measurements were taken), I felt the treble peak was past the sibilance region. I thought it a bit odd that I saw a peak at 8kHz (which is smack in the middle of the sibilance region and not a good spot). It turns out the ringing behavior gets shifted upward from the peak to 9-10kHz (what audio engineers know as the "tape hiss" or "definition" region), which amazingly believe it or not (at least to me) is much more tolerable than if it were at 8kHz.
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Has anybody tried to run their LCDs without that thick jute mat-like square patch?


Yup. Bass-o-matic. Think Darth Beyer. Possibly worse. I may even have a measurement somewhere.
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Has anybody tried to run their LCDs without that thick jute mat-like square patch?  I imagine they'll sacrifice some square wave performance for a larger/less cluttered soundstage.

I'd be really curious about this, too.
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Thanks for letting me take a listen Marv!

Sound

Probably the best bass reproduction I ever heard. Bass rendering and impact is definitively one of the main strengths of these cans. In that sense I guess they are fun, but not basshead crazy nor mushy. Bass quality was not sacrificed for quantity.

The mids are also pretty good. IMO vocals have good presence, though a little "hollow". As if the vocals had some sort of room coloration. This could be due to the upper mid range FR deep, but I'm not sure.

They are not tremble shy at all, but they are no Grados either. There might be some sort of tremble noise there perhaps due to THD non-linear distortion levels in the same region.

This is not a perfect headphone, but it is unique and definitively not offensive sounding...

Confort

Actually going from memory these are lighter and easier to wear than Audezes, so it those are not-a-problem for your noggin then these will be an improvement. However, don't expect them to be lighter than a pair of HD600 and such.

I also played around by pressing them against my head to get a light seal, but I didn't perceive a significant improvement in sound quality. However, rotating them around degraded SQ IMO, so I just let them be their un-seal-y selves.

Presentation

Nice set of accessories, but as far as the headphones go...



Price

As far as the price... Well, yeah... Can't afford them... California PowerBall (Loto) is currently $141 million so maybe...

Overall

Unique sound signature... in a good way, unique presentation... in a bad way.
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Uh, the Abyss measurements look like what I heard with my pair of Beyer T70p before they died in a damping accident.
Including the 8-9k ringing. The only difference is that those were a bit more rolled off at both ends, which would especially affect bass.
A tiny bit peakier in the mids too.
My pair was way less bright than what Purrin measured with his T70p.

Huh?! :)p12

Of course, I'd rather hear it first before concluding they sound the same, but this might be hard to arrange.
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Dunno mang, the T70P do look a little brighter:



My pair was way less bright than what Purrin measured with his T70p.

Ah!!! Seems you were one of the lucky few! I think Tyll measured 3 T70p's and they all had behemothic K2 level tremble peaks:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicT70250Ohmsn01111.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicT70250Ohm.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicT70p.pdf

The good news is that the Abyss don't seem to sound like an average T70p.
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T70P FR as posted by RD:
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By "Behemotic" you mean 6 dB peak. Mine only had 2 dB, much better.
The main difference being that in Abyss, the ringing is hidden by a highs dip, while in T70p it's not.
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