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Take a listen please
« on: June 22, 2013, 07:13:00 PM »

 ahoy

time for some little comparative listening. Here are two 3 sec snippets of Firefly:

a.flac
b.flac

in 44.1/16 compressed with FLAC.


Can you pick out a difference between the two, if so do you prefer one of them?

Hint: one of the files was processed differently. I will reveal which one and how after some guys had a chance taking a listen.

(this might not be the right place for this, so please don't  walk the plank2)
« Last Edit: June 22, 2013, 08:29:28 PM by xnor »
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Re: Take a listen please
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2013, 08:03:49 PM »

Permission denied. MediaFire detects the material as copyrighted.
Maybe use a different hosting solution?
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Re: Take a listen please
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2013, 08:11:08 PM »

Woah woah woah. When did we get another sailor with a Guybrush avatar?!?
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Re: Take a listen please
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2013, 08:18:56 PM »

Oh lol, I'm new here but been using that avatar for a few years.

Will fix the links.. edit: fixed.
edit2: Does it work?
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Re: Take a listen please
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2013, 10:55:15 PM »

My ears cannot detect those differences (reliably) on cheap PC speakers at a quick listen and to me border on placebo realm but they are certainly measurable and very quantifiable.
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Re: Take a listen please
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2013, 10:59:53 PM »

lol, I actually thought zerodeefex was xnor from Head-Fi for the longest time because of that.
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Re: Take a listen please
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2013, 11:32:35 PM »

 :-DD nope
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Re: Take a listen please
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2013, 12:16:05 AM »

I am not sure if it is placebo or not since the differences don't jump out at me but I thought I heard the snap in the beginning of the song ever so slightly louder on B. I'll listen some more.

Edit:Nevermind I think its placebo. I'll listen some more
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Re: Take a listen please
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2013, 12:20:23 AM »

My placebo feeling says I like A more and feel like it is less annoying than B but I say placebo because the difference is quite small on my hd280pro.

Without over analyzing, and based on my comparisons without trying to scientifically eliminate placebo (I havent done an ABX yet) I feel the lower frequencies of the vocals are ever so slightly richer on A. This is the opportunity to shoot me down hehehe but yah like I said I myself have a feeling its just placebo since I don't hear anything jump out at me like when comparing oggs vs mp3s vs the original flac file.

EDIT: ahh nevermind... I discovered that its in the recording where sometimes the voice gets slightly thinner at times. Its both present on A & B

First AB Test here

foo_abx 1.3.4 report
foobar2000 v1.2.8
2013/06/23 08:30:13

File A: C:\Users\donunus\Downloads\a.flac
File B: C:\Users\donunus\Downloads\b.flac

08:30:13 : Test started.
08:35:58 : 01/01  50.0%
08:36:35 : 02/02  25.0%
08:37:36 : 03/03  12.5%
08:38:10 : 04/04  6.3%
08:38:24 : 05/05  3.1%
08:38:56 : 05/06  10.9%
08:39:17 : 06/07  6.3%
08:39:39 : 06/08  14.5%
08:40:10 : 06/09  25.4%
08:40:40 : 07/10  17.2%
08:41:29 : 07/11  27.4%
08:41:45 : 07/12  38.7%
08:42:31 : 08/13  29.1%
08:43:19 : 08/14  39.5%
08:43:49 : 09/15  30.4%
08:44:06 : Test finished.

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Total: 9/15 (30.4%)

I got a perfect 5/5 at first since I could tell the difference of the flow of the sound when switching from track to track then fatigue sets in after that I was becoming less sure the higher the trials went. Anyway, this was with an hd280pro out of a realtek soundcard and an O2 amp. When a dac arrives here I'll test it again.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2013, 12:49:28 AM by donunus »
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Re: Take a listen please
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2013, 12:52:14 AM »

No no, I'm not :boom: you down. I know how hard such tests are when you basically have no friggin clue what to look for.

ABX is nice, but in order to start you should be able to hear (or at least think* you can hear) a difference between A and B.
*) I've confidently ABX'd files and it turned out I was completely wrong. I think everyone who's done a couple of ABX tests has experienced that, especially if the results are hidden during the test.

Btw, did I mention that I really like some of those smilies? :D <- Well, not particularly that one.
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