I can't find a Concero dac, if I google it I get the meier concerto dac 

http://resonessencelabs.com/concero/

There you go. Resonessence Labs Concero.

Price definitely has an influence, but now that CEE TEE has had time for some close comparisons outside of meets his impressions are that they are closer than price would let you think.  I'll leave it for him to fill you in, you just need to be patient a little longer and he will be back.

Quote from: shipsupt on March 08, 2013, 03:35:42 PM

Nope, sorry, can't help with the C4.. I figured you were looking at UE so you didn't have a huge long wait to get them... I'll fix my post above.

Oh. Didn't realize the UE4's were in the same class as the UERMs O_o. Or is this more of a 'not bad considering they're half the price' thing?

Anyone else on Frogbeats C4 vs UERM? It seems I'm not the only one interested.

Yes, that was my experience with the Arcam and DacMagic as well. I ended up with the Spitfire MKII (with Powersource and Bravo sync), which I like a lot, but it looks not fancy at all, and it has 2 power switches now  . I'm interested in a DAC 800-1200 dollar which is better than the Spitfire and has at least 1 coax and 1 optical input. The REGA DAC looks very nice, and I like its Rhythmic sound, but there are SO MANY dac's now, that its hard to choose (especially when you can't audition 90% of them).

blargh. had a reply written out and accidentally closed the browser...

so yeah, I found a few measurements on the MDR-EX800ST / 7550 here: http://rinchoi.blogspot.ca/2012/11/sony-mdr-7550.html
but got no idea about his measurements, if they're reliable. distortion looks good... FR looks weird, he uses a very different compensation it seems.
are these at all sibilant? I read so in a few threads over at that place... but doesn't appear to be very so? more than ER4?

going to go see if I can try the SE425, can't figure out if they're as bassy as 535 or not. I thought those were a bit bassy.
seems like a lot of people dislike them but like the 535 :/ are they that different?

FitEar F111 measurements anyone? can't seem to find more than an FR comparison to the ER4 without any info other than that. $595 might be a tad much though. musica-acoustics just started selling them for that.

think I also decided on the A2, and another gift... seems like a good choice just overall. might spark a desire for me to get a decent pair of speakers too, haven't heard any good pairs in a loong long time.

has anyone here heard the RE-600 prototype? I'm very curious, the RE-400 seems promising too.

thanks